can u take 200mg suspension?

**OnTheSauce** · 10-14-2012, 07:16 AM

Yes but youll crash hard 5-6 hrs later and feel like shit. Ughhh

**Capebuffalo** · 10-14-2012, 07:57 AM

inject every 12 hrs and there is no problem
I love tne

**austinite** · 10-14-2012, 08:03 AM

Shit. I would have to inject 3 times daily.

**OnTheSauce** · 10-14-2012, 08:05 AM

I did 200 at one time along with 45mg halo before my comp yesterday. Crashed so hard. Feel like ass

**austinite** · 10-14-2012, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by patrick4588

I did 200 at one time along with 45mg halo before my comp yesterday. Crashed so hard. Feel like ass

yeah, but you're a crazy fvcker. We expect that from you

What's this world record I'm hearing about??

**OnTheSauce** · 10-14-2012, 08:08 AM

Just american. Not world. More to come.

**warmouth** · 10-14-2012, 08:14 AM

What is the record???

**OnTheSauce** · 10-14-2012, 08:24 AM

628 deadlift in 198lb. Apc federation. Also have spf mens junior at 605. Had 650 in me

**austinite** · 10-14-2012, 08:24 AM

congrats dude.

**Atomini** · 10-14-2012, 08:44 AM

Just to let you guys know, testosterone suspension has a much longer half life than once thought by most people.

Check this out, in 2011 there was a study done in horses that reported a median terminal half-life of 39 hours with aqueous Testosterone Suspension.(1) An aqueous testosterone suspension was administered intramuscularly in the neck of Thoroughbred horses. The disposition of testosterone from this formulation was characterized by an initial, rapid absorption phase followed by a much more variable secondary absorption phase. The median terminal half-life was 39h.

In fact, if you take a look at the study, you will see the two plasma testosterone concentration peaks. The first peak is almost immediate (much akin to your 90 minute suspension peak time) and the second peak is a whopping 7 days later on average according to the chart in the full study. The study indicates that the initial peak is from the Testosterone formulation solution and the following peak(s) from the solid material in the suspension.

It looks like EOD injections of test suspension do just fine. Most people seemed to be wrong when they were saying test suspension needed to be injected 2x per day to maintain stable blood levels.

REFERENCES:
1. J Vet Pharmacol Ther. 2011 Mar 2. doi: 10.1111/j.1365-2885.2011.01277.x.

**OnTheSauce** · 10-14-2012, 08:59 AM

I just know i feel terrible after about 6hrs when i do 200. Done it twice

**Capebuffalo** · 10-14-2012, 09:13 AM

Try the tne which is oil based if you have access.
May make a difference

**OnTheSauce** · 10-14-2012, 09:19 AM

thats what i used yesterday. gf says it smells like wet dog. she can tell whenever i use it. apparently my breath smells like it. i can taste it, so makes sense.lol.

**Capebuffalo** · 10-14-2012, 09:26 AM

never had a problem with it. that odd. you in n.ga or s. ga?

**OnTheSauce** · 10-14-2012, 09:27 AM

south of atl.

**Capebuffalo** · 10-14-2012, 09:33 AM

roswell/alpharetta

**OnTheSauce** · 10-14-2012, 09:34 AM

been up there quite a bit. ever lifted at ironbeast?

**Capebuffalo** · 10-14-2012, 09:56 AM

No but had a buddy at N GA Barbell for a while did well

**OnTheSauce** · 10-14-2012, 10:00 AM

ill be at the dirty south open in Jan. come out.

**Capebuffalo** · 10-14-2012, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by patrick4588

ill be at the dirty south open in Jan. come out.

send me the details would love to. You know Im doing the online competition in the lounge I should by yoked by then. Wont be embarrassed to walk in.

**Capebuffalo** · 10-14-2012, 10:07 AM

This the one you go for the record

**OnTheSauce** · 10-14-2012, 10:10 AM

what record?

**HitIt** · 10-14-2012, 10:16 AM

Georgia, Georgia,
The whole day through
Just an old sweet song
Keeps Georgia on my mind

**Capebuffalo** · 10-14-2012, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by patrick4588

what record?

628lbs maybe I misread you already have it? Post #8

**Capebuffalo** · 10-14-2012, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by HitIt

Georgia, Georgia,
The whole day through
Just an old sweet song
Keeps Georgia on my mind

Another GA boy St.Simmons?

**HitIt** · 10-14-2012, 10:32 AM

Sav born and raised

**Capebuffalo** · 10-14-2012, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by HitIt

Sav born and raised

Spent 5 yrs at GSU River Street happy hour 2 for 1 drinks and St Pattys Day

**OnTheSauce** · 10-14-2012, 03:46 PM

I was there for st pattys 2012

**stpete** · 10-14-2012, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Atomini

Just to let you guys know, testosterone suspension has a much longer half life than once thought by most people.

Check this out, in 2011 there was a study done in horses that reported a median terminal half-life of 39 hours with aqueous Testosterone Suspension.(1) An aqueous testosterone suspension was administered intramuscularly in the neck of Thoroughbred horses. The disposition of testosterone from this formulation was characterized by an initial, rapid absorption phase followed by a much more variable secondary absorption phase. The median terminal half-life was 39h.

In fact, if you take a look at the study, you will see the two plasma testosterone concentration peaks. The first peak is almost immediate (much akin to your 90 minute suspension peak time) and the second peak is a whopping 7 days later on average according to the chart in the full study. The study indicates that the initial peak is from the Testosterone formulation solution and the following peak(s) from the solid material in the suspension.

It looks like EOD injections of test suspension do just fine. Most people seemed to be wrong when they were saying test suspension needed to be injected 2x per day to maintain stable blood levels.

REFERENCES:
1. J Vet Pharmacol Ther. 2011 Mar 2. doi: 10.1111/j.1365-2885.2011.01277.x.

Your reference is wrong. There are no esters attached to suspension therefore no half life. It works practically as soon as injected and steadily decreases over time.

**Atomini** · 10-14-2012, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by stpete

Your reference is wrong. There are no esters attached to suspension therefore no half life. It works practically as soon as injected and steadily decreases over time.

You're correct, it does. I'm not disagreeing with you there. Suspensions have no esters, and so of course suspensions don't end up following the trends of half-lives at all. However, the study conducted determined that there is an immediate peak, followed by another peak several days later.

Full study details:

J Vet Pharmacol Ther. 2011 Mar 2. doi: 10.1111/j.1365-2885.2011.01277.x. [Epub ahead of print]

An interlaboratory study of the pharmacokinetics of testosterone following intramuscular administration to Thoroughbred horses.

Moeller BC, Sams RA, Guinjab J, Szabo N, Colahan P, Stanley SD.

Source

K.L. Maddy Equine Analytical Chemistry Laboratory, California Animal Health and Food Safety Laboratory, School of Veterinary Medicine, University of California at Davis, Davis, CA, USA Florida Racing Laboratory, College of Veterinary Medicine, University of Florida, Gainesville, FL, USA Department of Large Animal Clinical Sciences, College of Veterinary Medicine, Gainesville, FL, USA.

Abstract

Moeller, B. C., Sams, R. A., Guinjab, J., Szabo, N., Colahan, P., Stanley, S. D.

An interlaboratory study of the pharmacokinetics of testosterone following intramuscular administration to Thoroughbred horses. J. vet. Pharmacol. Therap. doi: 10.1111/j.1365-2885.2011.01277.x.

Testosterone is an anabolic androgenic steroid (AAS) that is endogenously produced by both male and female horses that also has the potential for abuse when administered exogenously to race horses. To recommend appropriate withdrawal guidelines so that veterinarians can discontinue therapeutic use prior to competition, the pharmacokinetics and elimination of testosterone were investigated. An aqueous testosterone suspension was administered intramuscularly in the neck of Thoroughbred horses (n = 20). The disposition of testosterone from this formulation was characterized by an initial, rapid absorption phase followed by a much more variable secondary absorption phase. The median terminal half-life was 39 h. A second focus of this study was to compare the testosterone concentrations determined by two different laboratories using a percentage similarity model with a coefficient of variation of 16.5% showing good agreement between the two laboratories results. Based on the results of this study, a withdrawal period of 30 days for aqueous testosterone administered IM is recommended.

© 2011 Blackwell Publishing Ltd.

**stpete** · 10-14-2012, 04:48 PM

Well, haha...I don't care what it does or doesn't do to horses. Nothing towards your post. I get a little confused sometimes when it comes to studies. I wish i could find someone doing a study of suspension on humans! I'll be first in line! haha...

**songdog** · 10-14-2012, 05:35 PM

Congrats on your record Bro.

**OnTheSauce** · 10-14-2012, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by stpete

Well, haha...I don't care what it does or doesn't do to horses. Nothing towards your post. I get a little confused sometimes when it comes to studies. I wish i could find someone doing a study of suspension on humans! I'll be first in line! haha...

You and me both brother. Got a ton of it