Swollen feet!!

**The Titan99** · 10-18-2012, 02:00 AM

Hey guy's,
Anyone ever get any thing like this going? I had a few drinks and my feet swelled up like my Grandmothers!! I'm on some pretty decent doses of AAS including Test, Tren , Masteron , Var,HGH and just recently Halo. Had some swelling issues before but nothing like this. It goes without saying it's a big no go on the booze till the cycles over (Oct 31st). Feel and look fine other than the feet. Not holding much water anywhere else. Have vascularity in abs and all. My first thought was kidney's, although I don't know how. Here's a pic of the poor old dogs...

Jeez, look at the ankle compared to the heel on the left foot. Won't be able to see a competent Doc till after the first of next month.

AD · 10-18-2012, 02:23 AM

any pain?

any AI?

**The Titan99** · 10-18-2012, 02:30 AM

No pain, just a little numbness just due to the swelling.
I'm one of those guy's who don't use AI's. I can do up to 2 grams of test and have no sides. The only side I ever got was ED from using Aromasin . Stopped using it, never had another problem. No swelling anywhere else either.

**Phased** · 10-18-2012, 02:42 AM

GH right...That might be it! How many IU's ED?

AD · 10-18-2012, 02:42 AM

was it immediately after the booze? i personally dont think its anything worrying. the gear and booze probably combined to give you a temporary fluid and electrolyte imbalance and water retention results. if it persist for more than a few days, then maybe add a tiny bit of AI for a few days. but i feel everything should go back to normal in a day or 2.

(above is just my personal opinion)

**Sworder** · 10-18-2012, 02:48 AM

It's his BP! Classic on-cycle symptom for it!

**Phased** · 10-18-2012, 02:51 AM

Originally Posted by Sworder

It's his BP! Classic on-cycle symptom for it!

Kill two Birds with one stone, with Cialis

**The Titan99** · 10-18-2012, 03:55 AM

Originally Posted by Phased

GH right...That might be it! How many IU's ED?

10 i.u.'s 5 days a week.

Originally Posted by asiandude

was it immediately after the booze? i personally dont think its anything worrying. the gear and booze probably combined to give you a temporary fluid and electrolyte imbalance and water retention results. if it persist for more than a few days, then maybe add a tiny bit of AI for a few days. but i feel everything should go back to normal in a day or 2.

(above is just my personal opinion)

I hope so.

Originally Posted by Sworder

It's his BP! Classic on-cycle symptom for it!

BP is always a little high with Tren but not oput of line (138/90)

Originally Posted by Phased

Kill two Birds with one stone, with Cialis

Taking 20 mg a day already!!

**Phased** · 10-18-2012, 03:58 AM

I say culprit GH..At those doses of real GH swelling of hands and feet is common.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UH_S1ml26kU

**The Titan99** · 10-18-2012, 04:13 AM

Originally Posted by Phased

I say culprit GH..At those doses of real GH swelling of hands and feet is common.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UH_S1ml26kU

I tend to agree with you. I first noticed some swelling of the feet when I started GH. And that was when I was only doing 6 i.u.'s. On the 31st when my cycle ends I'll roll that down to 5 i.u.'s and that should tell the tale...

**OnTheSauce** · 10-18-2012, 06:27 AM

O.o can u get shoes on? Lol

**Times Roman** · 10-18-2012, 10:28 AM

so if you were experiencing a reaction from one compound you are taking, which one would it be?

would you be able to tell?

**warmouth** · 10-18-2012, 11:26 AM

The booze could have made your BP even higher, which in turn might could have caused the swollen feet from the higher BP as Sworder said. Maybe get an electronic monitor and check itnext time you drink. They arent the most accurate means of checking, but you can get a baseline and go from there. I suffer from hypertension and have since I was 15. If I have a few drinks, especially beer, my BP goes through the roof! Good luck Titan!

**KarsenH** · 10-18-2012, 04:07 PM

Damn, beat me to the Cialis recommendation. How's it working out for you??

**Phased** · 10-18-2012, 06:52 PM

Its 10iuED of GH thats making his feet swell. Cialis will do nothing

**The Titan99** · 10-18-2012, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by The Titan99

I tend to agree with you. I first noticed some swelling of the feet when I started GH. And that was when I was only doing 6 i.u.'s. On the 31st when my cycle ends I'll roll that down to 5 i.u.'s and that should tell the tale...

Originally Posted by patrick4588

O.o can u get shoes on? Lol

I live on an island in Thailand so I don't really wear shoes...

Originally Posted by Times Roman

so if you were experiencing a reaction from one compound you are taking, which one would it be?

would you be able to tell?

Trick question? No.

Originally Posted by warmouth

The booze could have made your BP even higher, which in turn might could have caused the swollen feet from the higher BP as Sworder said. Maybe get an electronic monitor and check itnext time you drink. They arent the most accurate means of checking, but you can get a baseline and go from there. I suffer from hypertension and have since I was 15. If I have a few drinks, especially beer, my BP goes through the roof! Good luck Titan!

I have a BP machine. 138/88 this morning. On the high side but not too bad.

The cialas is doing everything it's supposed to do. Got a new girlfriend and without getting too graphic, she's pretty much ruined the sofa...

Originally Posted by Phased

Its 10iuED of GH thats making his feet swell. Cialis will do nothing

Once again I think you've nailed it. Combo of big GH dose and dehydration/electrolyte imbalance from drinking= Pregnant woman feet.

**Phased** · 10-18-2012, 08:31 PM

You must know Kmms, he loves there too! You guys are so lucky

**The Titan99** · 10-18-2012, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by Phased

You must know Kmms, he loves there too! You guys are so lucky

Yea, he's 2 islands south of me.

**Phased** · 10-18-2012, 08:38 PM

If I can get the old lady's consent I will go sometime and train and gear up for 4-6 months

**The Titan99** · 10-18-2012, 08:47 PM

Hell yea man. Both islands have good gym's, good cheap gear and BB food that's about 15% the price it is in the west!!

**Phased** · 10-18-2012, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by The Titan99

Hell yea man. Both islands have good gym's, good cheap gear and BB food that's about 15% the price it is in the west!!

Can you get legit pharma grade gh in Thailand or is it all fakes?

**The Titan99** · 10-18-2012, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by Phased

Can you get legit pharma grade gh in Thailand or is it all fakes?

Mines not fake, but there is a lot of fake everything here. I use Ansomone GH and it's Pharm. I wouldn't be doing 10 i.u.'s of fake GH ed, would I?

**Phased** · 10-18-2012, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by The Titan99

Mines not fake, but there is a lot of fake everything here. I use Ansomone GH and it's Pharm. I wouldn't be doing 10 i.u.'s of fake GH ed, would I?

Nope

that's why your the Titan!

**The Titan99** · 10-18-2012, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by Phased

Nope

that's why your the Titan!

HA! That's what I keep telling everyone...lol!

**warmouth** · 10-18-2012, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by The Titan99

The cialas is doing everything it's supposed to do. Got a new girlfriend and without getting too graphic, she's pretty much ruined the sofa...

HA HA!!!! Gross.

**swithuk** · 10-19-2012, 05:00 AM

Originally Posted by The Titan99

Mines not fake, but there is a lot of fake everything here. I use Ansomone GH and it's Pharm. I wouldn't be doing 10 i.u.'s of fake GH ed, would I?

have you been put off at all with whats being said about ansomone recently ? i was doing 5i.u e.d and didnt notice anything ,even subtle, so i dropped it . do you think theres any possibility theyd be selectively scamming ?

**The Titan99** · 10-19-2012, 05:15 AM

Originally Posted by swithuk

have you been put off at all with whats being said about ansomone recently ? i was doing 5i.u e.d and didnt notice Aanything ,even subtle, so i dropped it . do you think theres any possibility theyd be selectively scamming ?

Ansomone is a legit Phrmacutical company. It's not generic so no, I don't think they are scamming anyone any more than I think Bayer ior Phizer are scamming people. What's happening, and Ansomone agknowedge this, is they are being counterfeited. It's happened in the past and will most likely happen again. It all comes down to the source your buying it from.

**swithuk** · 10-19-2012, 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by The Titan99

Ansomone is a legit Phrmacutical company. It's not generic so no, I don't think they are scamming anyone any more than I think Bayer ior Phizer are scamming people. What's happening, and Ansomone agknowedge this, is they are being counterfeited. It's happened in the past and will most likely happen again. It all comes down to the source your buying it from.

yes i completely agree . however i was buying direct , no question .. maybe i wasnt doing enough i.u ? but i would have thought 5i.u would have had an effect . also quite a few vets on here have raised similar concerns ....

**The Titan99** · 10-19-2012, 11:48 PM

I wasn't aware you could buy direct from the manufacturer. Didn't hear any bad press from Marcus either. This that I''m doing right now is good for sure. I'll PM Marcus and get the skinny I guess.

**baseline_9** · 10-20-2012, 02:15 AM

Marcus and ronnie will both tell u that ansomone are now scamming people.....

What u have may be good for now.... Sounds like they have gone down hill

**The Titan99** · 10-20-2012, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

Marcus and ronnie will both tell u that ansomone are now scamming people.....

What u have may be good for now.... Sounds like they have gone down hill

GOD DAMN IT!!! WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE? Sorry, had to get that out.

**swithuk** · 10-20-2012, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by The Titan99

GOD DAMN IT!!! WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE? Sorry, had to get that out.

thats exactly how i feel ! shame is they were the easiest to deal with , very good service etc now ive had to start out all over again ! and theres no way im going the generic route . NIGHTMARE !
i notice you live in samui ! i used to live in pattaya ........what a country !!!!!!!!

**The Titan99** · 10-20-2012, 08:45 AM

I live in Koh Tao. Hmms lives in Samui though. I' ve been in Thailand 13 years. For all the BS I'd rather be here than anywhere else. It's like living in an X rated cartoon/comedy!!!

**swithuk** · 10-20-2012, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by The Titan99

I live in Koh Tao. Hmms lives in Samui though. I' ve been in Thailand 13 years. For all the BS I'd rather be here than anywhere else. It's like living in an X rated cartoon/comedy!!!

yeah , nice place . i was there about the same amount of time . your right its crazy there , another planet . i enjoyed it though nevertheless . girls are amazing !!!! it was like ancient rome lol

i had some crazy times there . feel lucky to get out in one peace !!!

**t-dogg** · 10-20-2012, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by The Titan99

No pain, just a little numbness just due to the swelling.
I'm one of those guy's who don't use AI's. I can do up to 2 grams of test and have no sides. The only side I ever got was ED from using Aromasin. Stopped using it, never had another problem. No swelling anywhere else either.

Thats nuts. Didnt know you could get ED from aromasin .

**The Titan99** · 10-20-2012, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by t-dogg

Thats nuts. Didnt know you could get ED from aromasin.

Oh yea man, drop your estro too low and your dick becomes a drain for your bladder till further notice. The only thing that will do it quicker is letro. The good news is, your libido gets shot to hell too so you just don't care. Probably not idieallic if you have a wife or girlfriend or anyone your fvcking for that matter....

**baseline_9** · 10-20-2012, 10:49 AM

One observation of this thread on my behalf would be the fact that you state you don't need an AI as you don't get sides....

Your E is going to be elevated with exogenous testosterone at the dosages your taking...

There are more issues than just common ERSE's from elevated estorgen.....If u want more info speak to swifto.... However I'd advise to get BW done to check your within normal range

Not telling u what to do m8, just raising this to you....

Breast cancer is an issue, even I'm makes when E is elevated... So why not keep it in normal range

**The Titan99** · 10-20-2012, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

One observation of this thread on my behalf would be the fact that you state you don't need an AI as you don't get sides....

Your E is going to be elevated with exogenous testosterone at the dosages your taking...

There are more issues than just common ERSE's from elevated estorgen.....If u want more info speak to swifto.... However I'd advise to get BW done to check your within normal range

Not telling u what to do m8, just raising this to you....
Breast cancer is an issue, even I'm makes when E is elevated... So why not keep it in normal range

i've read Swifto's posts and I'm sure my E levels are elavated, but on several cycles I've tried to use stane,liqudex etc and just had horrible problems. Joint pain, always ed and libido issues, lethargy and more. Then, when I don't use them I feel great. I realize the truth in what's being said but the fact is it sucks so much for me I'm simply not going to do it unless I need it. I've tried to force the thing too many times and if it just so happens I can't tol'erate taking a heavy cancef med then fvck it, I'm just not going to do it.

**t-dogg** · 10-20-2012, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by The Titan99

i've read Swifto's posts and I'm sure my E levels are elavated, but on several cycles I've tried to use stane,liqudex etc and just had horrible problems. Joint pain, always ed and libido issues, lethargy and more. Then, when I don't use them I feel great. I realize the truth in what's being said but the fact is it sucks so much for me I'm simply not going to do it unless I need it. I've tried to force the thing too many times and if it just so happens I can tolerate taking a heavy cancef med then fvck it, I'm just not going to do it.

Have you cut back AI use but still use them? On my last cycle my knees started aching. i believe it was from ai use and I cut it back and it stopped.

**The Titan99** · 10-20-2012, 12:32 PM

Tge least I've done is 12.5 of aromasin eod. Asked Ronnie Rowland about it and he said if you don't have sides stop taking it. I did, all was good. It just seems stupid to keep trying to take something that I've never needed, then have all sorts of problems, then stop, then try to take it again.