H-Drol Cycle - Help Appreciated!

[KarsenH]

Hey guys, I posted a thread earlier this week with a similar cycle, I didn't get much feedback as people told me not do it at my current weight (160lbs) which I agree, however, I'd just like to see how the cycle overall is. I plan to do it around 195-200 lbs.

~Current Info~
Age: 24
Height: 6'1
Weight: 160 (Will start @ 195-200 lbs)


~Cycle~
Preload: (Week 1-2)
Letro (Please help with dosages for preload)
Fish Oil
Multivitamin (Animal Pak)
Milk Thistle
(Should I preload Taurine?)
Whey Protein
Casein
Mass Gainer

Cycle: (Week 3-8)
H-Drol @ 50/75/75/75/75/50
Letro (Again, need help with the dosages for on cycle letro)
Fish Oil
Multivitamine (Animal Pak)
Milk Thistle
Whey Protein
Casein
Mass Gainer

PCT: (Week 9-12)
Letro (Last time, need help with dosages for PCT)
Nolva (As well as these dosages)
Fish Oil
Multivitamine (Animal Pak)
Milk Thistle
Whey Protein
Casein
Mass Gainer


~Questions~
On top of what I've asked throughout the parenthesis:
1. Anything else I should take for liver care/skin care etc?
2. Should I preload with anything else?
3. Should I take anything else on my PCT?
4. What am I taking to ensure the gains I receive throughout the cycle will be maintained? (I'm already on planning on destroying myself in the gym the two months following the cycle, but is there anything that I should take to ensure maintenance of muscle?)


Thanks guys, much appreciated! - Take care.

[Lunk1]

Any reason you don't choose a real cycle? throw that prohormone stuff away! More dnager than benifit

[warmouth]

Yeah man! I would rather give you sound advice on running a cycle that you are possibly not ready for than a pro hormone cycle. That stuff works, not doubt about it. But at what cost? There are a ton of horror stories out there on the interweb. They can be equivalent or worst than running a Dbol only cycle.

[KarsenH]

Any reason you don't choose a real cycle? throw that prohormone stuff away! More dnager than benifit

Yeah man! I would rather give you sound advice on running a cycle that you are possibly not ready for than a pro hormone cycle. That stuff works, not doubt about it. But at what cost? There are a ton of horror stories out there on the interweb. They can be equivalent or worst than running a Dbol only cycle.

By real cycle what would you recommend? I posted a test E cycle that everyone found to be completely on point but I'm too worried about injecting myself. That's too hard core for me to be honest.

[Shsm]

I'm too worried about injecting myself. That's too hard core for me to be honest.

You're wasting your time.

[KarsenH]

You're wasting your time.

Wasting time on what? You're saying I should do a Test E cycle?

[warmouth]

Wasting time on what? You're saying I should do a Test E cycle?

Dont worry about this ^. Test E would be much better. Dont worry about pinning, its all part of the game. I have to get a friend to do it for me, as I cant muster the courage, lol. It is not bad at all, and painless.

[KarsenH]

Dont worry about this ^. Test E would be much better. Dont worry about pinning, its all part of the game. I have to get a friend to do it for me, as I cant muster the courage, lol. It is not bad at all, and painless.

It's not even that, it's just the fact of injecting something. I'll get over it I guess lol.

[Shsm]

Wasting time on what? You're saying I should do a Test E cycle?

Absolutely. Harden up brother.

[KarsenH]

Absolutely. Harden up brother.

Haha, I'm basically worried about the health side effects. What am I looking at as far as that goes for a Test E cycle? I'll post my cycle I made here for you to check out.

Week 1-14
Arimidex - .25mg Every Other day

Week 1-14
hCG - 500IU's p/w (split 250IU Monday and Thursday

Week 1-12
Test E - 500mg p/w - 250mg Monday and Thursday

Week 1-4
D Bol - 45 mg Each day

Week 15-18
PCT - Nolva: 40/20/20/20 & Clomid : 100/50/50/50

[Shsm]

That cycle looks great in my opinion. I'd switch out the Dianabol kickstart for some Super DMZ at 40 mg ED with 4 caps of Advanced Cycle Support ED until you're done with the 4 weeks. Not only will it be cheaper but it will provide better results. I only know one website besides EBay that still sells it and its bbesupplements.com

[cro]

you dont need letro for a simple h-drol cycle.does not aromatise no need for letro. run the liv 52 or milk thistle if you wish. and a nolva pct at 20/20/20/20 should be fine. 75mg was the sweet spot 4 me. m drol has known to be more harsh/superdrol,and can aromatise.

[KarsenH]

That cycle looks great in my opinion. I'd switch out the Dianabol kickstart for some Super DMZ at 40 mg ED with 4 caps of Advanced Cycle Support ED until you're done with the 4 weeks. Not only will it be cheaper but it will provide better results. I only know one website besides EBay that still sells it and its bbesupplements.com

http://stores.bbesupplements.com/-st...ine/Detail.bok That's what you're talking about right there? Forgive me if I'm not allowed to post direct links, I'll delete it if necessary. Sounds good, Cheaper/Better always works for me haha.

Adv Cycle Support is by IronMag Labs too right?

you dont need letro for a simple h-drol cycle.does not aromatise no need for letro. run the liv 52 or milk thistle if you wish. and a nolva pct at 20/20/20/20 should be fine. 75mg was the sweet spot 4 me. m drol has known to be more harsh/superdrol,and can aromatise.

Thanks a lot for the info, I don't think I'm going to run a H-Drol cycle now, however. They've persuaded me, just about, to do this Test E cycle. Btw, by "harsh" you mean that in a good way?

[Shsm]

Yes sir, that's the stuff. I have 4 bottles of that stuff in my closet. They discontinued it so I'd stock up. It bears Dianabol on an mg to mg basis hands down. I'd also grab some Advanced Cycle Support by the same manufacturer, it shouldn't be much more than a bottle of Super DMZ and your liver is irreplaceable.

Edit: Yes, ACS is the from the same manufacturer. I just read your post fully. Sorry about that.

[Lunk1]

OP...just skip the oral shyt all together. Learn how to determine side affects from 1 compound. You will get EVERYTHING you want from test and diet!!!!

Drop the oral and your cycle looks fantastic!!!

Oh...and pinning the first time took me all day to gather the nerv...now I miss it when I am not cycling!!!!!

[KarsenH]

Yes sir, that's the stuff. I have 4 bottles of that stuff in my closet. They discontinued it so I'd stock up. It bears Dianabol on an mg to mg basis hands down. I'd also grab some Advanced Cycle Support by the same manufacturer, it shouldn't be much more than a bottle of Super DMZ and your liver is irreplaceable.

Edit: Yes, ACS is the from the same manufacturer. I just read your post fully. Sorry about that.

They stopped making it?? Damn, I better stock up! I totally agree, I want to be as healthy as possible and bear the least amount of side effects as possible. Acne and gyno are my main concerns to be honest.

OP...just skip the oral shyt all together. Learn how to determine side affects from 1 compound. You will get EVERYTHING you want from test and diet!!!!

Drop the oral and your cycle looks fantastic!!!

Oh...and pinning the first time took me all day to gather the nerv...now I miss it when I am not cycling!!!!!

Are you saying the Test E cycle looks good? Thank you! Like I said regarding 'pinning' (lol the lingo and everything), I can do that without a problem (for some reason), it's just how I feel about myself when I'm doing that, know what I mean?

[Lunk1]

They stopped making it?? Damn, I better stock up! I totally agree, I want to be as healthy as possible and bear the least amount of side effects as possible. Acne and gyno are my main concerns to be honest.



Are you saying the Test E cycle looks good? Thank you! Like I said regarding 'pinning' (lol the lingo and everything), I can do that without a problem (for some reason), it's just how I feel about myself when I'm doing that, know what I mean?

Yes the test E cycle looks good...just drop any orals!

Not sure what you mean..I feel like a rock star/porn star/super fk hero! AKA GOD!!!!!!!!

[KarsenH]

Yes the test E cycle looks good...just drop any orals!

Not sure what you mean..I feel like a rock star/porn star/super fk hero! AKA GOD!!!!!!!!

Hahaha it's all about the mind set then. Thanks guys, looks like Test E cycle takes the cake.

Should I be worried about acne/gyno despite all the precautions I've taken within my cycle?

[Lunk1]

Hahaha it's all about the mind set then. Thanks guys, looks like Test E cycle takes the cake.

Should I be worried about acne/gyno despite all the precautions I've taken within my cycle?

Gyno and acne are results of Estro being to high...I have stressed this have I not??

Keep the estro in check..eat right and your GTG.

Acne happens to some no matter...there are certain things about cycling that qare unavoidable completely but...an be controlled and treated!

[SportbikerKid]

Why don't you pick up some b12 and some small pins just to see how injecting goes for you.

[KarsenH]

Gyno and acne are results of Estro being to high...I have stressed this have I not??

Keep the estro in check..eat right and your GTG.

Acne happens to some no matter...there are certain things about cycling that qare unavoidable completely but...an be controlled and treated!

Just making sure man, just making sure.

Why don't you pick up some b12 and some small pins just to see how injecting goes for you.

That's a good idea, thanks Sportbiker.

[cro]

everyone is different not to scare the op off,i know people that have ran ai the whole cycle and pct correctly, and have rebounded, some can not tolerate test.i agree that test is best 4 me.

Gyno and acne are results of Estro being to high...I have stressed this have I not??

Keep the estro in check..eat right and your GTG.

Acne happens to some no matter...there are certain things about cycling that qare unavoidable completely but...an be controlled and treated!

[KarsenH]

everyone is different not to scare the op off,i know people that have ran ai the whole cycle and pct correctly, and have rebounded, some can not tolerate test.i agree that test is best 4 me.

By "rebounded" what exactly do you mean?