Tren question

[Jamfox]

I'm pinning 100 mg of tren acsetate. Made from finaplix . I've been on it for 7 days now. The last few days my thighs( where I'm pinning) have been painfull. Is this normal. It hurt the most during cardio.

[Lunk1]

No test???

[Jamfox]

Not yet. I'm waiting on my docs prescription. Do u think that has something to do with it

[austinite]

Try rotating sites. Throw some delts and glutes in there. ED or EOD is a lot of pinning on any site.

[austinite]

Not yet. I'm waiting on my docs prescription. Do u think that has something to do with it

Woah. Jam, this should have waited until you had Test my friend. But no, that is not the cause.

[Lunk1]

I dont think it has anything to do with the pain but it is a BIG no no! This is your 1st cycle no doubt...I would advise you to stop what you are doing before you have serious complications. They are around the corner...

[Jamfox]

Yeah eod. But yeah I'll use other sites. This is my first time cycling in ten years. So I'm probably not as knowledgable as I should be.

[Lunk1]

Yeah eod. But yeah I'll use other sites. This is my first time cycling in ten years. So I'm probably not as knowledgable as I should be.

Seriously stop pinning tren like this...we will be glad to help now before your next thread reads "please help with my broken pee pee".

[Jamfox]

Ok I have access to test I just was holding off till my doc prescribed mine. But should I go ahead and pin some of the test

[Lunk1]

Why don't we start with breaking this down to the basics.

What are your stats..
Age
Height
weight
BF%
Gym experience
Cycle experience
Goals with this cycle

[austinite]

^ good idea.

[Jamfox]

Im30 years old. 5'7. 165 lb. my last bf% was 22 % I have been working out with experienced people for 3 to 4 years now. But none that cycle. I did a cycle of deca and stestonon 250 when i was 18 years old. My goals are to loose this last little bit of fat and get a little bigger

[Lunk1]

22% is rather high BF% to consider AAS use. This will increase your risks such as high BP (especially with tren ),high cholesterol, ED and so on.

I would suggest stopping the tren and any AAS for the time being and lets work on the diet for a short time in order to get that BF down to a number that will ensure a safe and successful cycle!

[Jamfox]

Ok sounds good. My doc is prescribing me injectable test. Is it ok to start that

[Lunk1]

Ok sounds good. My doc is prescribing me injectable test. Is it ok to start that

Have you been diagnosed with low T???

[Jamfox]

Yes I had blood work done 2 months ago. Cause me and where trying to have a baby. My doc said my level was 370. He said it was on the low end So I have to go back in 2 weeks to retest test levels. He said he recommends injectable test.

[rmbX66t1]

I dont think it has anything to do with the pain but it is a BIG no no! This is your 1st cycle no doubt...I would advise you to stop what you are doing before you have serious complications. They are around the corner...

I agree that tren only for a first cycle would be a horrid idea. However, tren only, can work for many people. It is unorthodox and something that needs to be played with through experience. But I have personally had spectacular results with just trenbolone - mind you, without testosterone , the doses need to be limited in my experiences.

EDIT:
After reading further comments and replies to this, completely ignore the idea of tren alone, it is too complicated at this point. Check out these threads:

Beginner Cycle: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...o#.UIv82sU72Ag
Estrogen Control: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t#.UIv868U72Ag
PCT: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UIv9IcU72Ag
Tren: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ctively-thread!
Progesterone Control: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...d#.UIv9esU72Ag

This would be a good start for you.

[wesh]

How do i start a thread guys. I need some serious advice

[rmbX66t1]

How do i start a thread guys. I need some serious advice

In the appropriate section, click "start new thread" on the top left, just underneath the sponsor banner.

[Jamfox]

Thanks for all the help so far. If I have any questions I'll be sure to ask. And I'll let u no how everything works out

[Lunk1]

Thanks for all the help so far. If I have any questions I'll be sure to ask. And I'll let u no how everything works out

Sorry Jamfox..I had togo for a bit and I ws hoping Austin would ahve taken over but perhaps he was busy as well. At this point your best interest is 2 fold. 1) go to the TRT section and post your BW for the guys over there to look at. Unfortunatly very few docs really have any idea what they are doing in terms of TRT and even many Endo's have limited knowledge.

2) At this point you need to consider simply following the doctors advise and not attemp to turn your TRT into a cycle. Many ppl do this and regret it since they horde prescribed gear..use it up and then are left with long periods of time where they have no replacement test and have some serious issues.

At this point the TRT forum is really in your best interest.

[warmouth]

If you are trying to have a baby, taking testosterone is a male contraceptive. I wont say you cant get pregnant, but it is highly unlikely. Doctors usually tell you to come off the test, then pump you with HCG and an AI and SERM. My doctor does anyways. But OP, you really dont need to run Tren without test. I can vouch for this being a horrible idea as I know first hand(a friend, not me). Good Luck!

[austinite]

Get a good handle on TRT first before you cycle. Come check out the HRT forums, lots of great info there.

[ironbeck]

100mg ed......so your pinning 1 1/2 ml ed or 2, I mean finaplex conversions at best produces 75mg/ml...and usually anywhere as low as 50...so your dealing with 50-75mg/ml but you can't know for sure.

[ironbeck]

bump

[Jamfox]

When I got it my buddy said it was 100 mg / 1 ml.

[MuscleInk]

There are so many things in this thread. If you and your wife are having problems getting pregnant, a urologist isn't going to recommend TRT. That's not likely to help the problem and would more likely make the problem worse. Sperm motility and count would be one area to examine if conception issues were a concern. If ED or libido were issues, again, TRT isn't the only way to address the problem.

A TRT dose of test is likely to be too low to really be a "cycle". The TRT will help with low T and libido issues.

You should not be adding tren at all right now - and again this isn't going to resolve the conception problem.

It sounds to me like there are two (maybe three) separate themes: (1) conception; (2) low T; (3) you actually want to cycle for reasons NOT related to items 1 or 2.

[Jamfox]

Well when I found out about the low t. And I was told by the doc he was going to do trt. I decided to get tren because I do want to get big too. But not if its going to not allow me to have kids. I just didn't do enough research and I'm seeing it now

[MuscleInk]

Well when I found out about the low t. And I was told by the doc he was going to do trt. I decided to get tren because I do want to get big too. But not if its going to not allow me to have kids. I just didn't do enough research and I'm seeing it now

Straight testosterone at doses higher than TRT will provide great results as long as your nutrition is designed to promote and sustain those gains.

IMHO, if pregnancy is the priority, stay off the gear and work with a medical professional who can diagnosis the appropriate causes and work with you to correct them. TRT will not help.

Once you and your wife have conceived, reconsider the TRT or a proper cycle for your health/fitness goals.

[Jamfox]

Ok thanks. I appreciate the advise and I'll be back for more when the wife gets pregnant. Lol

[ironbeck]

IN the meantime just send the fina to me and I'll hold it for you until u knock the wife up.

[Jamfox]

I'll get right on that. Lol. Hopefully it won't take long

[Lunk1]

IN the meantime just send the fina to me and I'll hold it for you until u knock the wife up.

You hold the fina I was thinking I would help with the pregnancy thing lol j/k