new cycle help. Test/deca/dianabol

[dave_m141]

Hi everyone. ive finished my first cycle of 12 weeks of test e, which igained 14lbs, and kept 14lbs due to hard training and correct dieting.

For my next cycle, i need some help. ive read plenty of things about it but then they all seem to contradict each other or im just getting a million different answers.

I have a very good source in who can get all alpha pharma or pro chem gear.

my next cycle i want to do test, deca and dianabol .
i understand test is needed for 10/12 weeks and that deca shuld be run a lil shorter as it takes longer to get out of your system so can affect your PCT times for the different stuff.
Dianabol is just going to be used at 30mg a day, spread out over the day for 4-6weeks as a big kickstart.

What i was going to use is pro chems Nandrodec 300mg/ml and Testanate 300mg/ml.

Can anybody tell me what dosing to use, when to do it, and the lengths of which each should actually be run.

I already have Aromasin on hand and HCG which i will run thorughout the cycle. I also have nolvadex and clomid again for PCT.

I do no a bit and have done hours upon hours of research on everything over a year now so im fairly clued up, but as not actually having done this one, i thought id ask you pros who would of done it for whats worked best for you/ what is best!

Oh and my goal is to bulk massively still. i have the diet in check, training is in check.

Any advice is appreciated. Thankyou

Dave

[10nispro]

A few questions first:

Stats please? hgt wgt bf% workout hx

When did you finish last cycle?

[dave_m141]

oh yeah my bad.
im 6ft4, 228lbs, 25 years old. body fat 14%.
i train 5times a week mon-fri with weekends off. i train 1 hour a day (give or take 15mins) to have the maximum focus and energy.

training is
Mon- Shoulders
Tues- Biceps
Weds- Chest
Thursday - Back and legs
Friday- triceps and a small ab session
i go for a push, then a pull day)

I do between 4-6 exercises (body part dependant, or how F**k*D i feel.)
4sets on each at maximum weight to failure( aim for 8 reps) then a drop set to shock them.

and then my cardio i do is more of a high intense walk with my dog in the mornings chasing the ball i threw as the bugger never picks it up!

[Wazz]

Awesome job! 14lbs. Congratulations on your hard work!

[dave_m141]

Cheers buddy, i love the placebo affect! knowing your on the stuff. well the first few weeks was just knowing your on it so you seem to smash through it! then when you start noticing the strength and size gains, thats it. my mind goes into a robot and all i think when im not there is ' gym gym gym gym gym' lol its wierd after all the years ive trained, seeing that size in so little time come on lol

[10nispro]

When did you complete last cycle?

[Lunk1]

Great stats and great attitude Dave..tell ya what. Put a cycle together based on your research and we will critique and tweak as needed. This assures that you have done your research and understand the compounds you are suggesting. Post it with dosages, AI and PCT protocal!

[dave_m141]

finished 5weeks ago, Im not going to start my next one until january at least to recover fully. or is it possible to start sooner?

and ok thats a good idea. give me a few mins and i will

[Wazz]

Cheers buddy, i love the placebo affect! knowing your on the stuff. well the first few weeks was just knowing your on it so you seem to smash through it! then when you start noticing the strength and size gains, thats it. my mind goes into a robot and all i think when im not there is ' gym gym gym gym gym' lol its wierd after all the years ive trained, seeing that size in so little time come on lol

Lmao, you've got me all excited about my test e cycle coming up! About 80 days till start! Too bad my start time coincides with everyone's new years resolution & I'll be lifting in a bee hive till they fall out!

I don't know if I'm more excited about the gains or being a horny "youngster" again 35 now & labido only recently changed about a year ago. So for the last year I've been more "normal"...

[dave_m141]

what i thought could be done was.
week1-10 test at 600mgs (due to having 300mg/1ml vials, makes life easier)
week1-8 Deca at 300mgs
week1-6 dianabol 30mgs

run HCG from week 3 onwards till the very end of pct.
Milk thwistle tablets once a day for the liver
HAve an AI on hand but not use it until needed(if it is)

and PCT
Week 12-16- 20mg Nolva
Week12-16- 50mg of clomid ( as my tbalets are all 50mg, make it easier)

How does that sound? im sure it needs tweeking a bit, but thats just what ive gathered roughly through all the contradictory ive read!

[dave_m141]

Lmao, you've got me all excited about my test e cycle coming up! About 80 days till start! Too bad my start time coincides with everyone's new years resolution & I'll be lifting in a bee hive till they fall out!

I don't know if I'm more excited about the gains or being a horny "youngster" again 35 now & labido only recently changed about a year ago. So for the last year I've been more "normal"...

Hahah ive literally been a walking boner for 3 months lmao, reminds me of my days when i was 18-22 haha
and yes youl have all the yobs thinking there gna be massive in 2 weeks, so itl be packed at the gym then eventually over time itl die off, happens every new year!

[Wazz]

Hahah ive literally been a walking boner for 3 months lmao, reminds me of my days when i was 18-22 haha
and yes youl have all the yobs thinking there gna be massive in 2 weeks, so itl be packed at the gym then eventually over time itl die off, happens every new year!

18-22 ROFLFAO!!! A vision of basic training jumped in my head. Imagine a shyte load of 18-22 y/o males sleeping & then boom~ trash cans getting thrown, yelling & screaming to get to the line at the position of attention!! Well, as embarrassing as it was most of us were standing at attention (boners trying to jump out of shorts).

Miss being that young..... Never mind

Good luck buddy! Sounds like you going to be gtg for cycle 2. Any reason your dropping to 10 instead of 12 weeks?

[dave_m141]

haha yes brilliant haha

and well 10 weeks of injecting, and itl actually be 12 weeks as test has a long ester so it will stay in you for another 10 or so days, hence why pct is started 10 or so days after your last pin

[Lunk1]

what i thought could be done was.
Week1-10 test at 600mgs (due to having 300mg/1ml vials, makes life easier) 12 weeks
week1-8 deca at 300mgs 10 weeks
week1-6 dianabol 30mgs 4 weeks

run hcg from week 3 onwards till the very end of pct. from first pin to last 250iu x twice a week
milk thwistle tablets once a day for the liver toss it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
have an ai on hand but not use it until needed(if it is) what is your ai? Use it! This is very important and espesially with a 19 nor like deca

and pct
week 14-18- 20mg nolva 40/20/20/20
week14-18- 50mg of clomid ( as my tbalets are all 50mg, make it easier) 100/50/50/50

how does that sound? Im sure it needs tweeking a bit, but thats just what ive gathered roughly through all the contradictory ive read!

tweaked!

[dave_m141]

fantastic cheers buddy! for the test. is that 12 weeks of pinning? or the 10 weeks of pinning, with the 2weeks half life of it inside you?

and my AI i can get is aromasin , is that any good or should i look for somethign else?

[austinite]

fantastic cheers buddy! for the test. is that 12 weeks of pinning? or the 10 weeks of pinning, with the 2weeks half life of it inside you?

and my AI i can get is aromasin, is that any good or should i look for somethign else?

Yes 12 weeks of pinning every 3.5 days. (if its enanthate or cypionate )

Aromasin is fine and can be dosed at 12.5mg EOD. However, Adex is easier to manage and works instantly, vs Aromasin that is a bit stronger, and takes about a week for serum levels to get up. Just be cautious with Aromasin.

[dave_m141]

ok thats brilliant, thanks alot guys.
i always thought aromasin and adex were the same thing, or is that something else im getting mixed up?
i wasnt too far out though in the cycle!

i have 2 months to train as hard as possible until il start this on jan 1st.

[Wazz]

Solid-

Lunk critiqued, Austin elaborated & your gtg!

I'm really interested in an update when your done. Both of us will be on the same schedule, hope I get 14 on my first----

[dave_m141]

yeah man il defo let you no! id like to see how you get on aswell. just eat shit loads of pasta and chicken ha

and i no for the test i pin 300ml every 3.5 days
is that the same for the deca ? just mix 0.5mg of deca into the test?