NPC Bulking 1250mg Test cyp + 400mg deca + 20mg var thoughts

**captindumbass** · 10-28-2012, 12:30 PM

Looking for thoughts on my planned cycle for bulking which will be

week 1-12

1250mg Test Cyp EW
400mg Deca EW
20mg var ED week 1-6
1mg adex EOD
4 ius hgh

Trying to move up a weight class for next year, this is my 6th cycle.

Any thoughts on starting at 500mg and then working up to 1250mg or just to start at 1250mg?
Will it make a difference for receptors starting low then high?

Thanks in advance

**qscgugcsq** · 10-28-2012, 12:46 PM

Instead of 1250mg test-c did you consider trenbolone ?? you could use lot less and limit the side.

But thats only my opinion you have lot more experience than I do.

In any case I wish you good luck

**Bonaparte** · 10-28-2012, 12:47 PM

Just start off at the 1250mg.
And why 20mg of Anavar ?

**captindumbass** · 10-28-2012, 01:18 PM

I normally use Tren ace, mast, t3 and clen precontest. Tren is harsh on the liver as I know anvar is also being an oral.
Sticking with longer esters because I am going to do 12 weeks
Just a kick start really, been clean and pct'ed for 2 months.
I have some prop i can use instead also for a shorter ester.

**Bonaparte** · 10-28-2012, 01:28 PM

That still doesn't explain why you'd waste your time with 20mg of Anavar , especially for a bulk at the NPC level...

**captindumbass** · 10-28-2012, 01:47 PM

Honestly it was recommended to me by my coach, I personally never been a fan of orals.
I ran 50mg Halo and 20mg winnie ED once for a week with test prop and tren and man did those orals f me up.

**austinite** · 10-28-2012, 01:56 PM

I'd get rid of the var if you're running it that low. You're better off drinking a red bull instead.

Also curious, was the username CaptainDumbass taken? lol.

**captindumbass** · 10-28-2012, 02:00 PM

Thanks, lol not I misspelled it during registration.
Would you recommend any kickstart such as prop 200mg EW until weeks 4-6 for longer esters to kick in?

**austinite** · 10-28-2012, 02:05 PM

No kick start. If anything you can front load, but that would be ALOT of juice on day 1

**--->>405<<---** · 10-28-2012, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Also curious, was the username CaptainDumbass taken? lol.

Originally Posted by captindumbass

Thanks, lol not I misspelled it during registration.

seems as though u picked the right name! LOL..

**ironbeck** · 10-28-2012, 02:07 PM

Yea also you should send the anavar to me .

**captindumbass** · 10-28-2012, 02:07 PM

Yeah trying to think of how to split of the 6 mls needed for this.
I know EOD will keep blood levels stable but 2x per week keeps my glutes in it and delts out of it.
Thanks austinite, just looking to add some quality size

**austinite** · 10-28-2012, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by captindumbass

Yeah trying to think of how to split of the 6 mls needed for this.
I know EOD will keep blood levels stable but 2x per week keeps my glutes in it and delts out of it.
Thanks austinite, just looking to add some quality size

Cyp? Just pin it twice per week.

**warmouth** · 10-28-2012, 02:09 PM

Scrap that var. 20mgs aint going to do squat with all that testosterone . I woud lower the AI a bit and adjust if needed. I feel pretty bad at .50mg, I couldnt imagine how Id feel at a full MG. Good luck!

**warmouth** · 10-28-2012, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by ironbeck

Yea also you should send the anavar to me .

Youre always looking for handouts arent you, you sly devil you. Send me that chick in your Avi.

**Bonaparte** · 10-28-2012, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Also curious, was the username CaptainDumbass taken? lol.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...80#post6107180
I beat you to it by 10 weeks

**austinite** · 10-28-2012, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...80#post6107180
I beat you to it by 10 weeks

lol. that is funny. Now go to your room.

**ddp2727** · 10-28-2012, 03:27 PM

Op you stated in a previous post back in August that you were about to start your 7th or 8th cycle but in this thread you posted that this was your 6th? What is your cycle history?

**Bonaparte** · 10-28-2012, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

lol. that is funny. Now go to your room.

You mean my kill room, right?

**austinite** · 10-28-2012, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

You mean my kill room, right?

Yes, where you store the glass microscope sheets. Sit at that desk and finish the damn interview.

**ironbeck** · 10-28-2012, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by warmouth

Youre always looking for handouts arent you, you sly devil you. Send me that chick in your Avi.

Yes I will send her over then, she(ronda rousey) will arm bar your ass lol...because she is a bad....bad woman :-)

**Bonaparte** · 10-28-2012, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Yes, where you store the glass microscope sheets. Sit at that desk and finish the damn interview.

Just did

You can harass Marcus now for it.

**austinite** · 10-28-2012, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

Just did

You can harass Marcus now for it.

Woah! I'm on it!

**captindumbass** · 10-28-2012, 04:36 PM

I was going to start my lean bulk then, but PCT needed to be extending to recover after being on for so long.
So I had to get some good bloodwork back first.

**Capebuffalo** · 10-28-2012, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by ddp2727

Op you stated in a previous post back in August that you were about to start your 7th or 8th cycle but in this thread you posted that this was your 6th? What is your cycle history?

Interesting question

**Metalject** · 10-28-2012, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by captindumbass

Looking for thoughts on my planned cycle for bulking which will be

week 1-12

1250mg Test Cyp EW
400mg Deca EW
20mg var ED week 1-6
1mg adex EOD
4 ius hgh

Trying to move up a weight class for next year, this is my 6th cycle.

Any thoughts on starting at 500mg and then working up to 1250mg or just to start at 1250mg?
Will it make a difference for receptors starting low then high?

Thanks in advance

Anavar is not the best bulking steroid out there. I understand the idea behind using it in some off-season stacks but it doesn't make much sense for a competitor IMO. There are simply better options.

As for your test dose, whatever you are planning on running just start there. No need to ramp up...there's not going to be some type of receptor downgrade or anything like that. 1250mg/wk is a heavy dose though. I've run 1000mg+/wk many times over but have found that doses that high can be a little irritating sometimes. It's easy to end up with libido issues when test doses get this high due to the massive amount of aromatase activity even with an AI...you kind of have to find a right balance. Some have issues, some don't. I am, however, not a fan of that much AI for that long during the off-season if it can be avoided and always tried to limit my total AI use as much as possible during this phase due to the often necessary high AI dose come contest prep time. Anyway, just food for thought.

**captindumbass** · 10-29-2012, 07:58 AM

Thanks metal. Coach wanted to harden me up a butane lean out in the beginning. As far as cycle history I been doing shit the last 4 years a haven't keep track of the number but I can go through my logs and count them up.
Good info on that much test, ill post results once week 6 is in. I didn't wanna run deca at 600, had issues with it before I prefer eq but I need that size so deca and cyp then maybe test e and eq 2nd round and bridge into 2013 season contest.
Think I need any caber on hand? Never had any Ai issues such as puffy nips running Ai at 1mg eod.

**Metalject** · 10-29-2012, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by captindumbass

Thanks metal. Coach wanted to harden me up a butane lean out in the beginning. As far as cycle history I been doing shit the last 4 years a haven't keep track of the number but I can go through my logs and count them up.
Good info on that much test, ill post results once week 6 is in. I didn't wanna run deca at 600, had issues with it before I prefer eq but I need that size so deca and cyp then maybe test e and eq 2nd round and bridge into 2013 season contest.
Think I need any caber on hand? Never had any Ai issues such as puffy nips running Ai at 1mg eod.

Wouldn't hurt to have it if you want it but you'll probably be fine either way. I never needed it.