Cycle Advice

**miner1** · 11-03-2012, 10:23 PM

Going to stat a new cycle in a few weeks and want some advice/critique on this stack I have in mind (have not purchased anything so it can change at any time) 5'11" 200lbs two cycles under my belt but this is the most thought out and longest...

14 total weeks not including PCT

Week 1-12 Deca (nandrolone ) 300mg/wk then in week 4 it goes up to 400mg/wk (pinning twice a week 200mg each time)

Week 1-3 Test Propionate (to jump start) 300mg/wk (pinning EOD 100mg each time)

Week 4-13 Test C and E (combined) 400mg/wk (pinning twice a week w/ the deca 200mg each time)

Week 14 Test P (one more time to give the deca and test c an e to leave my body and transition to PCT smoother) 300mg/wk (pinning EOD 100mg each time)

PCT start week 15
Day 1 Clomid 200mg + Nova 40mg
Days 2-11 Clomid 50mg + Nova 20mg
Days 12-21 Nova 20mg

Is that long enough for what im taking? Also should I consider Hcg ? Iv never done it just stuck with the Clomid and nova.
Since Im running test for so long should I take something else in my PCT, worried about my libido.

Also planning on running Aromasin (exemestane) during the cycle 10mg/day

I know Diet is a HUGE part but im leaving that for another thread lol

**gymfu** · 11-03-2012, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by miner1

Going to stat a new cycle in a few weeks and want some advice/critique on this stack I have in mind (have not purchased anything so it can change at any time) 5'11" 200lbs two cycles under my belt but this is the most thought out and longest...

14 total weeks not including PCT

Week 1-12 Deca (nandrolone ) 300mg/wk then in week 4 it goes up to 400mg/wk (pinning twice a week 200mg each time)

use the 400mg the whole time, no need to start with 300

Week 1-3 Test Propionate (to jump start) 300mg/wk (pinning EOD 100mg each time)

good

Week 4-13 Test C and E (combined) 400mg/wk (pinning twice a week w/ the deca 200mg each time)

need to run this from the beginning

Week 14 Test P (one more time to give the deca and test c an e to leave my body and transition to PCT smoother) 300mg/wk (pinning EOD 100mg each time)

I would go even one more week, deca is VERY long ester

PCT start week 15
Day 1 Clomid 200mg + Nova 40mg
Days 2-11 Clomid 50mg + Nova 20mg
Days 12-21 Nova 20mg

clomid and nolva
100/100/50/50
40/20/20/20/20

Is that long enough for what im taking? Also should I consider Hcg ? Iv never done it just stuck with the Clomid and nova.

YES!
250ius twice per week the entire cycle stoping the day you start the PCT

Since Im running test for so long should I take something else in my PCT, worried about my libido.

Also planning on running Aromasin (exemestane) during the cycle 10mg/day

I know Diet is a HUGE part but im leaving that for another thread lol

Everything else looks good.

Have you had your diet critiqued? Everybody thinks their diet is good.

**stpete** · 11-03-2012, 10:54 PM

^^^^ Agreed.

**miner1** · 11-03-2012, 10:57 PM

gymfu thanks for replying! so just to clarify, nova for 5 weeks and clomid for 4 weeks? not my 3 week plan. And Hcg DURGING my cycle along wit the aromasin ? Thats not to much to long?

**austinite** · 11-03-2012, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by miner1

gymfu thanks for replying! so just to clarify, nova for 5 weeks and clomid for 4 weeks? not my 3 week plan. And Hcg DURGING my cycle along wit the aromasin? Thats not to much to long?

Both PCT drugs for 4 weeks. Each number is representative of the daily dose for that week. So Week1/Week2/Week3/Week4.

HCG and Aromasin during cycle, correct.

**austinite** · 11-03-2012, 11:00 PM

Oops. Just noticed you asked gymfu! Sorry to step in

**miner1** · 11-03-2012, 11:12 PM

Thats cool! The more replies the better! Im just waiting on a response on If I should do the HCG threw out the entire cycle (dont want to make gyno possibility worse from what I read). Its just a little overwhelming to me since i hav never done HCG. I hav also read that just doing it the last 4 weeks of the cycle is fine, what do you guys think?

**austinite** · 11-03-2012, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by miner1

Thats cool! The more replies the better! Im just waiting on a response on If I should do the HCG threw out the entire cycle (dont want to make gyno possibility worse from what I read). Its just a little overwhelming to me since i hav never done HCG . I hav also read that just doing it the last 4 weeks of the cycle is fine, what do you guys think?

Originally Posted by austinite

Both PCT drugs for 4 weeks. Each number is representative of the daily dose for that week. So Week1/Week2/Week3/Week4.

HCG and Aromasin during cycle, entire cycle! correct.

I prefer the entire cycle. Good idea if you want to better your chances of having kids in the future

**stpete** · 11-03-2012, 11:39 PM

Yep...Entire cycle is what i do as well.

**miner1** · 11-03-2012, 11:49 PM

Thanks for your help guys!

**austinite** · 11-03-2012, 11:50 PM

Anytime Miner! Good to have you on board!

**miner1** · 11-03-2012, 11:58 PM

Last question, if I have trouble finding 250iu hcg , could I do 500iu once a week?

**austinite** · 11-04-2012, 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by miner1

Last question, if I have trouble finding 250iu hcg, could I do 500iu once a week?

Hmmm. What HCG are you looking at bro? Not OTC is it?

**gymfu** · 11-04-2012, 03:54 PM

I like the nolva for one more week, that's just me.

Yes hCG and AI while on cycle and up until the day you start the PCT.

You can't get the oral OTC hcg, it's not going to work.

Pharm stuff is usually sold in 1500 and 5000 ius amounts. Get 3 amps of 5000ius, dose 250ius twice per week or E3D. You need to read up on how to reconstitute it, store it, and use it.

**miner1** · 11-04-2012, 04:37 PM

austinite and gymfu... I will read up on it, do you have any links to good articles or videos on how to use this stuff, again since this will be my first time using hcg I hav no idea were to start but thanks again for the help so far! Should i just ask for pregnyl or is there something specific you guys suggest. Is a prescription need or is this back door dealings?