Short esters which do you perfer EOD or ED

**ironbeck** · 11-07-2012, 05:50 PM

This is a simple poll for preferences and pros and cons for pinning short esters every day or ever other day. Now we know ed constitutes more pinning con, but does it provide more stable levels. Eod has less pining but does it cause highs and lows.

**baseline_9** · 11-07-2012, 05:53 PM

I have done ED for 8 week periods but it's a pain in the ass...

I'm currently going EOD which I have never done b4 and boy does it feel like a relief....

It depends what volumes your pinning also and how u can manage PIP from prop if that's what your running

**ironbeck** · 11-07-2012, 05:55 PM

I'm currently running 150mg of prop and tren ace eod, but I'm thinking of changing it to every day because I'm definitely feeling a high and low in the 48 hr period.

**baseline_9** · 11-07-2012, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by ironbeck

I'm currently running 150mg of prop and tren ace eod, but I'm thinking of changing it to every day because I'm definitely feeling a high and low in the 48 hr period.

Id say that was in your head TBH.... But see if u notice the difference.... What do u mean high and low?

**MickeyKnox** · 11-07-2012, 06:08 PM

Every other day should be perfectly fine with 3 day esters, and you should not be feeling any peaks and valleys.

Having said that the more you pin the more stable your bloods are, no contest. But something like Suspension is every day, or twice a day, because there is no ester. You really have no choice with that one.

**Atomini** · 11-07-2012, 06:12 PM

I've only always ever used short esters.

I've only always ever pinned EOD (things like Propionate and Acetate), and have never had any issues.

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

Every other day should be perfectly fine with 3 day esters, and you should not be feeling any peaks and valleys.

Having said that the more you pin the more stable your bloods are, no contest. But something like Suspension is every day, or twice a day, because of the short ester. You really have no choice with that one.

Correction: Testosterone Suspension has no ester at all, that's why.

**P.Money** · 11-07-2012, 06:20 PM

Unless it's suspension, I don't see a point to pinning ED.

**MickeyKnox** · 11-07-2012, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Atomini

I've only always ever used short esters.

I've only always ever pinned EOD (things like Propionate and Acetate), and have never had any issues.

Correction: Testosterone Suspension has no ester at all, that's why.

I meant to say, because there is NO ester. Freudian slip. Thanks ill change it up

**ironbeck** · 11-07-2012, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

Id say that was in your head TBH.... But see if u notice the difference.... What do u mean high and low?

After about the 6hr mark after pinning I feel the juice( I pin at 5am) and about 5pm the next day I feel as if I'm dragging a little, then this cycle repeats and been fairly steady for the last week or so.

**mockery** · 11-07-2012, 06:44 PM

i believe in pinning ace ed. i dont get sides when i do. it works for me and no its not in my head. i pin long esters eod and it makes a big difference as well.

im not sure how injecting ed is a pain? if you are using drugs then you have to eat a shit ton of food, cook all that food and go to the gym every day. Loading a barrel and shooting it is teh least of my heartache in a day.

pin every musle in yoru body. i use everything but calves and chest.

**Lunk1** · 11-07-2012, 10:22 PM

I will say that while it's not HOW I do it I will say that the Ace ester is better to be pinned ED but a prop ester is fine EOD my opinion

**gymfu** · 11-07-2012, 10:29 PM

One cycle I tried to pin sust and deca everyday because I was reading all this stuff on how more stable blood levels is paramount and I was trying to eliminate acne, bloating, and water retension sides.....yea that did not go well, about 6 weeks in I felt worse than ever, absolutely no energy. A buddy of mine told me to stop pinning every day and I immediately felt better.

Ever since I've been scared to pin anything every day. Anyone experenced anything like this?

**auswest** · 11-07-2012, 10:40 PM

I've only ever done ed, so can't be opinionated on eod, but I will stick to ed, even though with certain compounds the pips are terrible and you really have to start searching for other sites. Never had a prob with ed

**ironbeck** · 11-08-2012, 03:53 AM

tks for all the opinions and responses the poll is dead even.

**OnTheSauce** · 11-08-2012, 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by mockery

i believe in pinning ace ed. i dont get sides when i do. it works for me and no its not in my head. i pin long esters eod and it makes a big difference as well.

im not sure how injecting ed is a pain? if you are using drugs then you have to eat a shit ton of food, cook all that food and go to the gym every day. Loading a barrel and shooting it is teh least of my heartache in a day.

pin every musle in yoru body. i use everything but calves and chest.

Agree. Except I use chest as well

**mockery** · 11-08-2012, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by patrick4588

Agree. Except I use chest as well

my trt doctor told me not to due chest injections because of teh way the pec muscle tissue is kind of different, and sometimes form more noduals that are the same but different then micro tearing scar tissue. plus he said if i got the urge to use black market gear and if it crashed that i would not enjoy the feeling of that in my chest. So wither he is trueful or informed enough or not ive always listened.

I love bi's , but i usually use them for my short esters so the pip can suck.

**Lunk1** · 11-08-2012, 10:11 AM

Hit those calves Mock lol. Love em.....NOT!

**mockery** · 11-08-2012, 10:38 AM

with ed , delts, bis, tri's outside quad top quad and lats do the trick nicely.

**Lunk1** · 11-08-2012, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by mockery

with ed , delts, bis, tri's outside quad top quad and lats do the trick nicely.

no glutes???

**ironbeck** · 11-08-2012, 04:26 PM

In every ones option which is easiest to pin besides quads, glutes, delts?

**Lunk1** · 11-08-2012, 04:28 PM

Lats

**ironbeck** · 11-08-2012, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Lats

just lift your arm and pin?

**Lunk1** · 11-08-2012, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by ironbeck

just lift your arm and pin?

Put it behind my head..yep

**baseline_9** · 11-08-2012, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by ironbeck

In every ones option which is easiest to pin besides quads, glutes, delts?

Chest by far.... You have 2 hands and can see exactly what your doing.... You can lay down too so it's a breeze...

**JohnnyVegas** · 11-08-2012, 06:31 PM

I think the only reason to do daily is if volume it too high EOD. I have been pinning daily for weeks now and it doesn't bother me much. I do like that I don't need to keep track of what days I do stuff. I pin and take my AI every day. Easy peasy. But I would prefer to do EOD.

**OnTheSauce** · 11-08-2012, 06:32 PM

Triceps and biceps are easiest. I like lats, but gave someone do them for me. I tend to point the needle too far inward, not straight towards my back.

**JohnnyVegas** · 11-08-2012, 06:34 PM

I do biceps occasionally, but have never tried triceps or lats. I'm scart. Heh. Time to look for a video on how to do it. I can always use more locations.

**fit2bOld** · 11-08-2012, 06:36 PM

Bi's and Tri's

**Lunk1** · 11-08-2012, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by JohnnyVegas

I do biceps occasionally, but have never tried triceps or lats. I'm scart. Heh. Time to look for a video on how to do it. I can always use more locations.

I cant bring my self to shove a needle in my chest! Nope..not happening!

**Tron3219** · 11-08-2012, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

I cant bring my self to shove a needle in my chest! Nope..not happening!

Not unless it's atropine!!!!!

**JohnnyVegas** · 11-08-2012, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

I cant bring my self to shove a needle in my chest! Nope..not happening!

You will notice that chest was not in my list of things I am going to look up. It just doesn't seem deep enough to put a needle into...or do you only us 5/8"?

**Lunk1** · 11-08-2012, 07:20 PM

Yeah JV...dont bury a 1.5 lol. That muscle is close like delts...I still cant do it!

Tried calf ONCE...NEVER again.

**OnTheSauce** · 11-08-2012, 07:30 PM

Tricep is easiest ever... I hold my arm out to 90 degrees with thumb up and hit it right underneath. Don't feel a thing.

For biceps I curl my arm so bicep is peaked, but not flexed. Hurts less this way for me versus arm straight

**austinite** · 11-08-2012, 07:33 PM

ED for me is best. Although EOD is gives a nice break. Easiest would be delts and lats for me.

**Sgt. Hartman** · 11-08-2012, 07:38 PM

I have done both ed and eod and can't tell any difference regarding sides etc. I pin only ed now but only due to injection volume.

And pecs are one of the easiest and painless places to pin. 1" 25g works fine.

**Lunk1** · 11-08-2012, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

ED for me is best. Although EOD is gives a nice break. Easiest would be delts and lats for me.

You have no choice but ED or you would be nailing 12CC per pin lol!

**austinite** · 11-08-2012, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

You have no choice but ED or you would be nailing 12CC per pin lol!

lol, yeah. I hate it. 24 CC's last week

**Lunk1** · 11-08-2012, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

lol, yeah. I hate it. 24 CC's last week

Christ and I bitched about 4CC E3D lol

**ironbeck** · 11-11-2012, 07:11 AM

Yea with those 100mg/ml short esters the cc's add up fast... about 25 cc's a week.

**OnTheSauce** · 11-11-2012, 09:51 AM

I did 21cc a week for 8 weeks earlier this year. Now I get my stuff in higher concentrations. 200mg/ml prop, and doesn't hurt that bad surprisingly. Im going to use test e, Tren e, mast e in the spring when I cut.