Results 1 to 20 of 20
  1. #1
    mr007 is offline New Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    20

    aas to strengthen bones?

    What's up guys I'm about to begin a cycle on Monday, running sustanon /suspension/anavar and I've heard anavar does this but can anyone confirm or reccomend anything else that will strengthen bones/tendons? I have Osgood slaughters disease of the knees and they ache quite a bit.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    7,794
    Anavar 's being prescribed to AIDS patients to combat muscle wasting that is prevalent with that disease. I don't really know if it strengthens bones and connecting tissue. Small doses of Deca with Test has helped me with joint issues. I've been on HGH for a while and have noticed that my joints feel much better. I have arthritis in my back and have poor joints genetically.

  3. #3
    Bonaparte's Avatar
    Bonaparte is offline AR-Hall of Famer
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    13,506
    Cissus. End of story.

  4. #4
    gymfu's Avatar
    gymfu is offline Knowledgeable Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    lone star state
    Posts
    1,425
    AAS do help bone tissue repair.

    Test alone should do the trick. Deca helps increase the quality of synovial fluid which lubricates joints.

    Hgh is the only thing that aids in collagen repair.

    Have you used any of these before?

  5. #5
    Bonaparte's Avatar
    Bonaparte is offline AR-Hall of Famer
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    13,506
    Quote Originally Posted by gymfu View Post
    AAS do help bone tissue repair.

    Test alone should do the trick. Deca helps increase the quality of synovial fluid which lubricates joints.

    Hgh is the only thing that aids in collagen repair.

    Have you used any of these before?
    Anavar does as well, which is why it heals skin injuries (like burns).

  6. #6
    gymfu's Avatar
    gymfu is offline Knowledgeable Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    lone star state
    Posts
    1,425
    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Anavar does as well, which is why it heals skin injuries (like burns).
    Really? Is anavar the only AAS?

    I think they give burn victims AAS because it speeds healing.

    I could be wrong on that.

  7. #7
    Sworder is offline Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    San Diego
    Posts
    1,196
    I didn't know that skin is collagen. Also, no compound(AAS or hGH) will increase collagen synthesis. It's a myth.
    Last edited by Sworder; 11-09-2012 at 02:47 PM.

  8. #8
    Bonaparte's Avatar
    Bonaparte is offline AR-Hall of Famer
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    13,506
    Quote Originally Posted by gymfu View Post
    Really? Is anavar the only AAS?

    I think they give burn victims AAS because it speeds healing.

    I could be wrong on that.
    No, you're correct.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15300183

    Quote Originally Posted by Sworder View Post
    I didn't know that skin is collagen. Also, no compound(AAS or hGH) will increase collagen synthesis. It's a myth.
    Time for an anatomy lesson: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collagen

    Collagen is a protein which comprises the bulk of connective tissues. An increase in collagen synthesis directly increases the rate at which skin (and many other tissue injuries) heal.

    50mg of Anavar will double or triple the rate at which burns and road rash heal (I know this from personal experience).
    Last edited by Bonaparte; 11-09-2012 at 04:44 PM.

  9. #9
    Sworder is offline Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    San Diego
    Posts
    1,196
    I haven't found evidence to support that it increases collagen synthesis. OP is talking about tendons and joints, not road rash. No knowledgeable doctor will support the notion that anavar increases collagen synthesis. Like I said, there is no empirical evidence to support it either. It's a myth brother. Just because AAS may help heal skin tissues doesn't correlate that directly to collagen synthesis LMAO
    It would be common practice to prescribe anavar after joint/tendon damage but that is not the reality because.... The AAS myth exists on forums.

  10. #10
    mr007 is offline New Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    20
    What is cissus? An i hhave not tried any of those listed yet. I've been planning my first cycle for awhile now and I will be running anavar 50mg ed for 8weeks along with sustanon 250.
    The sustanon I have is amazing! Iys comprised of 30mg test acetate, 60mg test prop, 60mg ISO and 100mg test cyp!

  11. #11
    Bonaparte's Avatar
    Bonaparte is offline AR-Hall of Famer
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    13,506
    Quote Originally Posted by Sworder View Post
    I haven't found evidence to support that it increases collagen synthesis. OP is talking about tendons and joints, not road rash. No knowledgeable doctor will support the notion that anavar increases collagen synthesis. Like I said, there is no empirical evidence to support it either. It's a myth brother. Just because AAS may help heal skin tissues doesn't correlate that directly to collagen synthesis LMAO
    It would be common practice to prescribe anavar after joint/tendon damage but that is not the reality because.... The AAS myth exists on forums.

    There is no dispute as to whether Anavar increases surface collagen (skin) synthesis. It is whether this translates to an increase in the collagen that forms joints, ligaments, and tendons that is still up for debate.
    And if you'll read a few posts higher, my point was just that Anavar has been shown to boost collagen synthesis (and skin + bone healing), which the below links prove.
    I never said it was the answer to joint or tendon injury (though it may help).

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...nticated=false

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1828036/
    The above study has a graph clearly displaying the dose-dependent relationship between oxandrolone (in vitro) and Type-1 collagen synthesis.
    They focused on type I because this is what is primarily found in bone tissue, which is affected by deep burns. Yes, the increase dropped after 5 days, but this is an in vitro test with no IGF-1 increase or other factors that come into play.
    Last edited by Bonaparte; 11-09-2012 at 04:43 PM.

  12. #12
    Sworder is offline Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    San Diego
    Posts
    1,196
    I agree that it increases "skin synthesis" I am disputing that any AAS/hGH increases collagen production in relation to OP's inquiry about joints/tendons.

  13. #13
    Bonaparte's Avatar
    Bonaparte is offline AR-Hall of Famer
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    13,506
    Quote Originally Posted by mr007 View Post
    What is cissus? An i hhave not tried any of those listed yet. I've been planning my first cycle for awhile now and I will be running anavar 50mg ed for 8weeks along with sustanon 250.
    The sustanon I have is amazing! Iys comprised of 30mg test acetate, 60mg test prop, 60mg ISO and 100mg test cyp!
    Use your google.
    It is the (well...second) greatest herb ever.

  14. #14
    Bonaparte's Avatar
    Bonaparte is offline AR-Hall of Famer
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    13,506
    Quote Originally Posted by Sworder View Post
    I agree that it increases "skin synthesis" I am disputing that any AAS/hGH increases collagen production in relation to OP's inquiry about joints/tendons.
    Oh, well that is a tossup.
    Though I don't have any evidence on the subject, I can only see it helping.

  15. #15
    ironbeck's Avatar
    ironbeck is offline Knowledgeable Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    3,514
    Blog Entries
    1
    i thought EQ was good for collagen synthesis?

  16. #16
    Shsm is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    1,348
    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Use your google.
    It is the (well...second) greatest herb ever.
    What is the greatest?

  17. #17
    Sworder is offline Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    San Diego
    Posts
    1,196
    Quote Originally Posted by ironbeck View Post
    i thought EQ was good for collagen synthesis?
    Great example of the myth being spread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shsm View Post
    What is the greatest?
    Trenbolone ............. Nah, he is probably referring to c******s.
    Last edited by Sworder; 11-09-2012 at 05:30 PM.

  18. #18
    Shsm is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    1,348
    Quote Originally Posted by Sworder View Post

    Trenbolone............. Nah, he is probably referring to c******s.
    That's what I was thinking too haha
    Last edited by Shsm; 11-09-2012 at 05:38 PM.

  19. #19
    Weah is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    127
    Quote Originally Posted by Shsm View Post
    That's what I was thinking too haha
    I don't understand a damn shit What did he mean is the best herb?

  20. #20
    Sworder is offline Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    San Diego
    Posts
    1,196
    Well it's against the rules to discuss recreational drugs..

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •