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    First Cycle Starting Soon - Critique Away

    Hey everyone I've been doing a lot of research over last few months and I think I've come up with a pretty solid first cycle. I just about have everything ready to go less my pins and Prolactone which I will be using during cycle.

    Have a look at let me know what you guys think. If I need to share more info. I realize PCT is probably overkill and will adjust prior to starting.

    Free free to have a look and share your thoughts.

    Current Weight 174 lbs
    Height: 5' 11"
    BF: 8.7%
    Age: 34 almost 35

    Cycle
    Weeks 1-4 - Test Prop 100mg EOD
    Weeks 1-6 - Test E 500mg Weekly (Mondays, Thursdays)
    Weeks 7-8 - Test E 600mg Weekly (Mondays, Thursdays)
    Weeks 9-10 - Test E 750 Weekly (Mondays, Thursdays)
    Weeks 9-12 - SuperDMZ 2.0 - 2 Caps Daily (1 cap AM / 1 cap PM w/ food)
    Weeks 1-12 - Aromasin (12.5 mg EOD monitor and adjust)


    PCT (14 days after last Test E)
    Weeks 13-16 - Clomid 75mg/50/50/50 (two weeks after last pin)
    Weeks 13-16 - Nolva: 40/40/20/20


    Other Daily Optional Supps
    Acnedren (1-3 caps daily)
    Prolactrone (2 caps daily)
    Taurine (3-5g daily (for back pumps)
    Creatine (2x5g Daily)
    Glutamine (15-20g daily)
    Multi-Vitamin - (1 tab daily)
    Krill Oil (2x500mg daily)
    Vitamin C (2-3g daily with each meal)
    Liv52 Daily (1-2 caps daily)
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    You can keep the dose of test e the same at 500, no need to go up and no need for that much for your first cycle. Also, pct starts 14 days after last pin for test e

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    Never mind I misread your pct plan, thought you were starting it a week after

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    As stated earlier, there is no need to increase dosage throughout, 500 mg is PLENTY for your first cycle. You don't want to be doing over a gram of test your second cycle haha.

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    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...into-your-dose!!

    You should cut your AI before PCT as well.

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    Wow, what a mess. Read this thread. It will provide information and insight into your proposed cycle.

    Pay particular attention to timing and dose protocols.


    Most Common Beginners Cycles

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJZv62fX_fs

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    Hey everyone... thanks for the feedback. I do realize this is an advanced first cycle and should have stated that from the get go. There is complete science behind increasing your dosages as weeks progress and is completely fine for beginner cycle as well. I can source some those if need be. So this is not a mess as Mickey points out besides the typo on PCT as forgot to cut the AI out as that is overkill. I was copying and pasting from of of my own docs and forgot to delete out.

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    No offense-but why did you ask if once you got your answers you shoot them down? I don't see the point in using 750mg of enanth ANYWHERE on your first cycle. I'm no expert but my first cycle I used sust @ 250mg and saw performance enhancement. I understand everyone is different but I dk, 750 seems like a HUGE amount of test for a first run

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    A good first cycle for you IMO w/the compounds you have would look like this:

    Prop 1-4 100mg EOD
    Test E 1-12 600mgs EW-not 10, 12
    Run your AI to PCT
    PCT is fine.

    That's more than enough for a solid first cycle. 600mgs and frontloading is really not needed on your first cycle and 750 is just too much.

    Just my thoughts on the subject though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zinghigh89 View Post
    No offense-but why did you ask if once you got your answers you shoot them down? I don't see the point in using 750mg of enanth ANYWHERE on your first cycle. I'm no expert but my first cycle I used sust @ 250mg and saw performance enhancement. I understand everyone is different but I dk, 750 seems like a HUGE amount of test for a first run
    Titration of your test dose, amount of test first cycle (750mg) PCT timing and AI (you've since corrected those), adding pro-hormone last 4kws with no test in your system and shutdown - all on a first cycle.

    To me, that's a mess. If it wasn't, i would have written that cycle in the Beginners Cycle thread. But i didn't, because its a mess.

    And please feel free to post up sources that support this convoluted first cycle, particularly the part that describes the titration of testosterone from 350mg to 750mg in ten wks. lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    A good first cycle for you IMO w/the compounds you have would look like this:

    Prop 1-4 100mg EOD
    Test E 1-12 600mgs EW-not 10, 12
    Run your AI to PCT
    PCT is fine.

    That's more than enough for a solid first cycle. 600mgs and frontloading is really not needed on your first cycle and 750 is just too much.

    Just my thoughts on the subject though.
    This ^^

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