blood pressure

[safa66]

hello to all the members. i appreciate any advice.
im 28 years old training for 3 years seriously with good and clean diet.
i tried compounds: test e(testoviron depot), turinabol (balkan), dianabol (british dispencary), and gh(norditropin).
every time i start the cycle, my blood pressure skyrocket.
from 130/70 it can go to 150-170/90.heart rate from 60 to 90.
even gh at 2 iu did this.
i tried one time propranolol and it just lowered my heart rate not blood pressure.
the symptoms i get are mainly heat in the body, shakiness.
i appreciate any advice on this subject.
all my blood test and heart test i did came out fine.

[Bonaparte]

Try an ACE inhibitor and/or calcium channel blocker.

[safa66]

which is the best ace inhibitor for this case?

[Bonaparte]

There is no single best, or else the others wouldn't exist.
Lisinopril is the most common, so you could look into that first. But feel free to read up on each one on your own.

[safa66]

ok thanks bro.

[ironbeck]

You could try otc hawthorn berry.
You could get a rx from your pcp for a beta blocker
You could up your cardio

[Bonaparte]

You could try otc hawthorn berry.
You could get a rx from your pcp for a beta blocker
You could up your cardio

Hawthorn berry didn't do jack for me.
And he already tried a beta blocker.

[OnTheSauce]

How much hawthorn berry EXTRACT did u take? I do 1200mg a day and it dropped mine Drastically.

[safa66]

hawthorn berry didnt help.
propranolol i tried and just lowered my heart rate. blood pressure remains high

[safa66]

my doctor dont want to give me medication for blood pressure because it gets high just when on cycle.
he telling me not use steroids and the blood pressure wont spikes....
he gave me just propranolol that didnt help that much

[OnTheSauce]

Did you get hawthorn berry or hawthorn berry extract? And how much were u taking? I use the gnc brand extract and take 6 pills a day. 3 in morning, 3 at night. It dropped mine 50 points in 2 weeks. I can't imagine it working that well for me and doing nothing for someone else....

[Ashop]

How is your diet during your cycle,,,and your bodyfat %?

[Sgt. Hartman]

Did you get hawthorn berry or hawthorn berry extract? And how much were u taking? I use the gnc brand extract and take 6 pills a day. 3 in morning, 3 at night. It dropped mine 50 points in 2 weeks. I can't imagine it working that well for me and doing nothing for someone else....

There's gotta be some other factor involved. If hawthorne berry were really that effective then prescription bp meds would be completely unnecessary. I take an ace inhibitor and beta blocker together everyday and it hasn't lowered my bp by 50 points. Guess me and my doc are wrong, should have just stuck with hawthorne berry lol.

[Bonaparte]

There's gotta be some other factor involved. If hawthorne berry were really that effective then prescription bp meds would be completely unnecessary. I take an ace inhibitor and beta blocker together everyday and it hasn't lowered my bp by 50 points. Guess me and my doc are wrong, should have just stuck with hawthorne berry lol.

Yeah, 50 points is nearly unheard of.

[Blackatom8608]

Same thing happened to me. Mine was I'm sure from d bol once I DC dbol went back to normal.

[OnTheSauce]

I was running a gram of Tren and it skyrocketed. Got some cozaar and it didn't help much at all. Started hawthorn berry extract and it plummeted. Whenever I don't take it for a couple days it starts to go back up. I can't explain it, but it has a profound effect on my body.

[safa66]

its hawthorn berry from now company.
my diet is very clean. no salt.
im on 13% body fat

[Blackatom8608]

Hawthorne berry helped that much?

[OnTheSauce]

They sell hawthorn berry and hawthorn berry extract. But yes the extract helps me that much. 1200mg a day