CLEN alternative?

[seamonster]

Clen is not working for me. I'm on my second 2 week cycle and although I have lost a considerable amount of weight, it is not any more than I usually lose with my regular diet and exercise. I need another product that is stronger than CLEN. Any suggestions?

My diet is excellent; 6-8 small lean meals per day, minimum bread/rice lots of veggies green smoothies, etc. My exercise routine is is perfect and I've been lifting since high school semi-intense cardio 3-5 times per week. I am in very good shape but I cant get rid of my slight belly fat and get a super ripped six-pack which is what I want to do atleast one time before i hit 40 (34 now) I'm 5'10, 186 lbs with 11%bf

[Brick]

Clen is not working for me. I'm on my second 2 week cycle and although I have lost a considerable amount of weight, it is not any more than I usually lose with my regular diet and exercise. I need another product that is stronger than CLEN. Any suggestions? There is something that is stronger but I forget the name but remember that it is a poison and considered dangerous. What is your dosing protocol, are you feeling the side effects? Your clen may be underdosed?

My diet is excellent; 6-8 small lean meals per day, minimum bread/rice lots of veggies green smoothies, etc. My exercise routine is is perfect and I've been lifting since high school semi-intense cardio 3-5 times per week. I am in very good shape but I cant get rid of my slight belly fat and get a super ripped six-pack which is what I want to do atleast one time before i hit 40 (34 now) I'm 5'10, 186 lbs with 11%bf Perhaps look into 405 and what he does for dieting to hit those single digit %'s. Things like carb cycling, IF, UD 2.0 diet

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[seamonster]

liquid clen from er-r. Day1-3 = 60, day 4-6 = 80, day7-9 120, then cut down and be done by day 14. very little/no sides on the second cycle.

[t-dogg]

Gw -501516

[Atomini]

Albuterol may be a viable alternative. I am trying this out in a few days myself. However, Albuterol works in the same mechanism of action as Clenbuterol does - it just has a shorter half life and is supposedly less harsh when it comes to certain stimulant-like side effects.

[auswest]

Bucka I believe you're referring to dnp , dangerous stuff

Op,
You say your diet is all good yet when was the last time you adjusted your cals to suit your new weight? How have you calculated your tdee? Try 10-12 cals/lb of lean bodyweight, also your metabolism requires refeed days every 4-5 days, also give carb cycling, if or Keto ago also.

[The Bear 79]

Albuterol is weaker, if Clenbuterol isn't getting the job done, then Albuterol definitely wont. And the "poison" spoken of is called DNP (Dinitrophenol) and it is just that................a poison, although has been successfully used by many of our members, it has also been unsuccessfully used by many others, in other words they died. I would never use it.


"I'm just sayin"..................................

[The Bear 79]

And keep in mind, these drugs are best used for "fine tuning" not significant fat loss. If you're not already in somewhat remarkable shape (and based on your stats, it appears you are in good shape) you likely be disappointed with the results or lack there of from these drugs. Good luck.

[The Bear 79]

But if 9 or 10% of that 11% BF is centered on your gut, that wouldn't be considered "good shape" & the benefits of drugs like Clen would fall to the wayside in that case. Not trying to be an a$$hole or talk sh!t, just trying to cover all the bases.

[ScotchGuard02]

Be careful of DNP it can kill you. It will increase your body metabolism by as much as 30%. Seriously, it can kill you. Stick with the diet and clen .

[seamonster]

Thanks everyone for your info.

So maybe I'm doing something else wrong. I'm stopping CLEN till my belly is almost gone then use it to fine tune.