Cycle and PCT/AI

[Novyman]

Hello, 30 y.o male, 5'10'' , 190lbs 15 bf %

I've gone through a couple 10ml bottles of test in the last 10 years, usually doing 200-400mg for 6-8 weeks. I wasn't dieting right, and usual didn't keep my gains/or they turned to fat. I never ran any type of PCT or AI and I'm looking to do it right this time. I've looked at other threads, and am getting mixed reviews and would appreciate advice for this particular cycle Im running. Based on previous experience, I believe this to be the correct dosage for me to make maximum gains with limited side effects.

Week 1 - 4

Testosterone prop -75mg every other day

Week 1-12

Testosterone cyp. and enth. blend (I have both types, but not enough of one alone to run my cycle)
400mg week

1.) Now my question is, when should I start and finish my AI and how much should I use...daily or weekly? Should I even use an AI?

2.) Also, Should I use Nolv. or Clomid or both? when do I start? After the prop or after the cycle? How often and how much for this cycle? daily or weekly?

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

I would get some bloodwork done to see where you stand after those 10 years of no PCT or AI. Seems dangerous to jump back onto cycle without seeing where your levels are after 10 years of irresponsible cycling.

[Novyman]

I've had blood work, and my T and free T is on the low end. Don't remember the exact numbers as Ive had a few labs done, but it isn't low enough where my doc will give me TRT, but it is borderline low.

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

What about all your other levels?

Start your AI on the first day of your pin. What AI are you using and at what dosages?

You can use the prop to bridge you into your PCT. If you're ending it with the long ester your going to have to wait 14 days after your last pin to start PCT. Nolva and Clomid is fine, are you going to be using HCG ?

[Novyman]

I dont have/cannot get HCG so its just gonna be the AI/ and nolv/clomid

I was going to use liquidex but like I said do not know the dose to use?
You say I can bridge my prop into my pct, now you are meaning I dont start the nolv/clomid till after week 12? what is a recommended dose for Nolv and Clomid and do I need both?

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

You can dose the Adex at .25 EOD and can adjust from there.

I meen you wuold use the Prop more towards the end because it's half life is 48hours I believe meaning you can stop your long ester and take the prop for those 2 weeks it takes for the long ester.

If you don't mind the 2 weeks of just not being on anything and waiting for the long ester to clear then you can just use the prop in the beggining, it's up to you.

[Novyman]

what about throwing some dbol in the beginning then using the prop at the end like this

week 1-4
25mg dbol

week 1-10
400mg cyp/enth

week 8-12
75mg of prop eod

then I should start the PCT how long after my last prop shot? 48 hours....is that right?

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

How many cycles have you done, test only would be more then enough for your first run. Unless you already have the Dbol , yes that looks fine.

Make sure you have your PCT and AI before you start.

[songdog]

Not be rude but have you thought about doing any research? I mean really you been messing around with this stuff doing it all wrong.Now you want to do it right but want to be spoon fed.We dont do things like that here Bro.We dont mind helping but you have to do your part.I suggest you start with the stickys.There is a ton of good info there good luck.

[Novyman]

JohnnyBlazz, in my original post I said "Ive gone through a couple 10ml bottles of test in the last 10 years, usually doing 200-400mg for 6-8 weeks"

songdog, also said "I've looked at other threads, and am getting mixed reviews and would appreciate advice for this particular cycle Im running.""

I was looking for an answer on what to do for PCT and AI in this "specific" cycle, but I guess I was expecting too much. My mistake.

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

There's a sticky on half life times, you should go find the one for Prop because I'm not 100% sure exactly what it is off the top of my head. Read some other stickeys while you're looking around as song mentioned .

[Papiriqui]

Yeah there are a few stickys in the PCT section that give you samples of PCT for cycles, most of them are routine unless you go heavy and some other types of gear than your PCT changes otherwise nolva/clomid is g2g

[MickeyKnox]

Check here for examples of PCT..


Most Common Beginners Cycles

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJZv62fX_fs