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    Tren cough last three pins in a row

    Why O why am I getting tren cough every time? No change in the normal way of pinning, It started a couple of weks ago with that "taste" in my mouth while injecting, Now I have had full blown tren cough 3x in a row. Wife does the pinning(nurse) for my delts and glutes, i do the others.

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    Hey IronBeck,

    Are you mixing your Tren with Test in the same syringe? If so, try loading the Tren first and the Test last so the Test is first to enter your mucsle, followed by Tren. Often, this will make a huge difference.

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    Any correlation between when you pin or your wife pins? After almost 19 years of pinning for TRT and cycles I have never had the "cough". However just recently I had the "taste" twice while pinning glutes.

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    Maybe its the brew

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    That would be my guess beacuse I never get it.But I have not changed sources in years since I started doing tren .

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    I've had it 2 or 3 times in a row before. It's not always due to the Trenbolone . ALL oils do this, but Trenbolone seems for an unknown reason to be a little more severe during the cough. But often times you just get unlucky a couple of times in a row and end up shooting close to vein that you've passed through.

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    you're just getting lucky

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    I'm a lucky one. Never had the cough with any compound.
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    I've only had it about three times. I think I had test in the same syringe, but i can't be for sure. it was a deep feeling in my lunges and almost hurt a little bit. coughed for about 5 minutes. pain in the ass.

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    Stupid question, do you watch her aspirate ? The only time I experienced the cough was a lazy pinning job and I knew it was coming.

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    I always aspirate and have had this many times while on tren and on other compounds too.... Just because you're not in a vein you still may have past one and are very close to one... I just put it down to the oil managing to make its way in there, I think I had the most problems when doing quads....
    It's not a nice feeling, if you panic or try cough it gets worse and worse, best thing to do is sit down try to relax and take short breathes the deeper you breath I find the harder it is to breath....not fun at all, also accompanied with flushing, sweating, and that pale feeling in your face....not fun.. First time it happened I thought I was a goner lol..

    The joys of every day pinning, the chances of encountering these things are quite likely eventually, I've had everything from blood squirting out, oil/water in blood stream/I've aspirated blood about 4 times, and I always pin where I'm surprise to....:/

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    Hey IronBeck,

    Are you mixing your Tren with Test in the same syringe? If so, try loading the Tren first and the Test last so the Test is first to enter your mucsle, followed by Tren. Often, this will make a huge difference.
    Yes I do mix and I do draw the tren FIRST.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Maybe its the brew
    I think your right, during this cycle alone, I have had the "taste" with tren , mast, and prop....more with the tren, all together 20x and severe tren cough about 7X. Truthfully its getting a little tiresome...with eod pinning. No insomnia though ;-) but night sweating like a mo fo, and i can not bang the wife missionary! gotta be her on top or doggie. not unless she wears googles lol.

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    im guessing you using tren A.... i always got tren cough after every injection and the taste on my mouth with tren A... for some reason with tren E that never happened.
    now it does not happen at all, cause im all done with tren do to my anxiety ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowman View Post
    im guessing you using tren A.... i always got tren cough after every injection and the taste on my mouth with tren A... for some reason with tren E that never happened.
    now it does not happen at all, cause im all done with tren do to my anxiety ....
    Tren A never gives me anxiety...but its getting to week 9 of cycle and I just finished the tren part...its time to quit when it starts to crush my cardio!quit the tren and start the winni....JJJJJ Jacked!

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    K instead of starting a new thread I'll try this first.
    I'm currently running a 12 week test cycle using my test E 300mg/lm 1.5ml twice a week and decided to run some tren for 4 weeks(800mg) with it at the week 5 point. Well I've had this powder for a while and silly me thought I should brew it stronger due to thinking it might have degraded over time. I got it to hold at 150mg/ml and its the darkest tren I have ever brewed...well point is I'm getting tren cough with every injection!!! AGAIN!!! lol This last injection, a glute shot I started to feel it in my lungs after a half cc and asked to stop and withdrawl, because I know there was no way she was going to be able to even get close to finishing before I would be crawling toward the front door for fresh air(Its that good) well any ways it felt like an immediate shock to the end of my tongue and even my mouth was a little numb...........Has anyone experienced this before? I had my wife finish the injection(new needle) in my hip no problem....it seems this is the only place I can inject this stuff ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironbeck View Post
    Why O why am I getting tren cough every time? No change in the normal way of pinning, It started a couple of weks ago with that "taste" in my mouth while injecting, Now I have had full blown tren cough 3x in a row. Wife does the pinning(nurse) for my delts and glutes, i do the others.
    I was checking out some new news. Check out Patrick Arnold web Blog. If I rem correctly there is a write up about some contaminated stuff going around, causing the cough among other things. quit using it.

    Ok, with your last post I see you added more info.....still, as you said something is different if this is your 1st time coughing. As it was also mentioned in the blog, yeah strong, and falling out, particles in the bottom, and sides, floating around. I bet they was having to use a turkey basting needle to inject that stuff...wew

    Below is part of the article from Patrick Arnold Blog Filed under the link Drugs, Credit Patrick Arnold

    "What made this story interesting to me though was the fact that these products were producing troubling physical symptoms in many of the users. These were acute symptoms of coughing and chest pain. Authorities weren’t sure if it was the steroid in the product or something else in the product. Since I am familiar with this area I can say with relative confidence that it was likely one of two things. First of all, the steroids could have contained trenbolone acetate, which is a steroid commonly known to cause an anaphylactic type reaction in users upon injection. An anaphylactic reaction is an allergic response that comes on very quickly (seconds or minutes) after exposure to an allergen and involves symptoms such as coughing due to shortness of breath, chest pain, sweating etc. Also known to cause anaphylactic reactions are the chemicals benzyl alcohol and benzyl benzoate. These chemicals are often added to injectable preparations in small amounts, but when added in larger amounts they have been known to cause anaphylactic like reactions in people (sometimes quite severe)."

    I usually check out his site, he does have some good info. He likes Chemistry, he is way above most, but he has a way of explaining things so most anyone can follow.
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    When I started TRT, this is why the DOC asked me if I had asthma, I do not. It is because of anaphylactic reactions, are dangerous in people with asthma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ironbeck View Post
    Why O why am I getting tren cough every time? No change in the normal way of pinning, It started a couple of weks ago with that "taste" in my mouth while injecting, Now I have had full blown tren cough 3x in a row. Wife does the pinning(nurse) for my delts and glutes, i do the others.

    saw some info about this once and it said that its cause by some of the oil getting in the blood stream and it filters through the lungs which is why you cough

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    It's not contaminated and its clear as honey and little to no pip, the stuff you described "particles in the bottom, and sides, floating around" is something I would have no part of!! I'm very serious about my brewing methods and would never attempt to use such a product as u described. Why would you even mention this, is this a question?
    I appreciate your response, but your way off base and really doesn't have to do with what I was asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironbeck View Post
    Bump....
    Have you run a control? I mean has anyone else used the same gear and had the same results?

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    while the stuff is legit, I don't know of anyone that has had such "tren cough" issues, maybe I have an unusually high amount of capillaries? lol

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    I posted the quote earlier, after all, it just may be a allergic reaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironbeck View Post
    while the stuff is legit, I don't know of anyone that has had such "tren cough" issues, maybe I have an unusually high amount of capillaries? lol
    Your real funny to bad you cannot figure out what an allergic reaction is. You sound really experienced. Duh thought it sat around a long time, and went bad, so just added a lot more...wow dark as syrup..........you answered your own question. duh......no calculations, just dump it into the soup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironbeck View Post
    K instead of starting a new thread I'll try this first.
    I'm currently running a 12 week test cycle using my test E 300mg/lm 1.5ml twice a week and decided to run some tren for 4 weeks(800mg) with it at the week 5 point. Well I've had this powder for a while and silly me thought I should brew it stronger due to thinking it might have degraded over time. I got it to hold at 150mg/ml and its the darkest tren I have ever brewed...well point is I'm getting tren cough with every injection!!! AGAIN!!! lol This last injection, a glute shot I started to feel it in my lungs after a half cc and asked to stop and withdrawl, because I know there was no way she was going to be able to even get close to finishing before I would be crawling toward the front door for fresh air(Its that good) well any ways it felt like an immediate shock to the end of my tongue and even my mouth was a little numb...........Has anyone experienced this before? I had my wife finish the injection(new needle) in my hip no problem....it seems this is the only place I can inject this stuff ?
    Silly you....that sums it up, and answers the whole question. You said it. you should do your calculations better, and stay away from the jethro Bodine double knot school of science. Stick to the classical Block chart diagrams, invest in some good conversions charts, weights, and measures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laser View Post
    Your real funny to bad you cannot figure out what an allergic reaction is. You sound really experienced. Duh thought it sat around a long time, and went bad, so just added a lot more...wow dark as syrup..........you answered your own question. duh......no calculations, just dump it into the soup.
    There is no reason to be rude, laser. This is not the type of communication we want on the forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ironbeck View Post
    while the stuff is legit, I don't know of anyone that has had such "tren cough" issues, maybe I have an unusually high amount of capillaries? lol
    This is ironbecks rude remark, taken from another thread.......Is this person allowed to be a smart****, and protected?

    Nothing I said prior to ironbecks sly smart*** remark was directed to Ironbeck, only pointed to an article which in the bottom line pointed to an allergic reaction.

    I am the one that was talking about capillaries in another thread...so this is ironbecks sly way.
    Really I could care less, but if beck cannot take it, do not dish it out, oldest rule on the books
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    Quote Originally Posted by boz View Post
    lol bumping a year old thread to tell us this, where do these members comes from?
    This One is from Texas. OOps is is ok to say that?

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    Ignoring all this crap above^^^^ and getting back on track with the OP. Beck, has anyone else used the stuff you brewed? Are they NOT experiencing the same issues? Do you have access to some from another source. I'm thinking it's time to eliminate suspects to determine the guilty party. Is it the brew or is it you....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Ignoring all this crap above^^^^ and getting back on track with the OP. Beck, has anyone else used the stuff you brewed? Are they NOT experiencing the same issues? Do you have access to some from another source. I'm thinking it's time to eliminate suspects to determine the guilty party. Is it the brew or is it you....
    Its pure deductive reasoning my dear watson hahaha,I believe in this case the sole guilty party is the Beck lol.

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    Yeh. I mean as. Long as u stored safely cool (mines around "English" room temp) dark place ur powder should keep.
    I get the sensation of needing to growl or cough like phlem (tho don't get any) whilst on my blast of test e or test e n tren a
    I'd imagine you've simply overdosed the solution and you are sensitive to it as well.
    But as said above. Another's reaction wud of helped.
    But...
    Personally if u think something else is wrong I personally wouldn't go seeing if others "can't breathe" to satisfy it..
    dilute with filtered oil.
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    See how that is

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    The reason I never done tren is the cough..
    My friend injected himself in front of me and he almost fainted..
    We had to take him outside for some fresh air. That was some scary scene

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rida5d View Post
    The reason I never done tren is the cough..
    My friend injected himself in front of me and he almost fainted..
    We had to take him outside for some fresh air. That was some scary scene
    hi Rida!

    You can avoid the cough by aspirating and injecting very slowly, with several pauses before the injection is complete

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