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    About to start my first cycle!!! (EXCITED AS PHUCK!)

    I've beening doing a lot of researching/ reading/ asking and what not, and I think I'm finally ready to start. I just want the vets here to have a final look and hear their critique/ advice. Here's how the blue print for my cycle looks like so far:

    Week 1 – 7:

    Day 1: 10mg Aromasin
    Day 2: 10mg Aromasin
    Day 3: 10mg Aromasin/ 250mg Test E
    Day 4: 10mg Aromasin
    Day 5: 10mg Aromasin
    Day 6: 10mg Aromasin
    Day 7: 10mg Aromasin/ 250mg Test E

    Week 8 – 15*:

    Day 1: 10mg Aromasin/ 60mg Var
    Day 2: 10mg Aromasin/ 60mg Var
    Day 3: 10mg Aromasin/ 60mg Var/ 250mg Test E
    Day 4: 10mg Aromasin/ 60mg Var
    Day 5: 10mg Aromasin/ 60mg Var
    Day 6: 10mg Aromasin/ 60mg Var
    Day 7: 10mg Aromasin/ 60mg Var/ 250mg Test E

    *I will also be taking liver support supplement starting week 8.

    PCT:

    Day 1 – 10: 20mg Aromasin/ 500iu HCG ED
    Day 11 – 14: 20mg Aromasin ED
    Day 15 – 43: 20mg Aromasin/ 50mg Clomid ED
    Last edited by ElliotMax; 01-22-2013 at 07:31 AM.

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    Probably gonna get flamed for running this at a young age.

    Why not go for a 12 week cycle? Also would run the hcg during cycle rather then for pct.

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    I was initially planning on 12 weeks, but the test I have is just enough for 15. As for HCG , I don't think I can take all that pinning my first time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElliotMax View Post
    I was initially planning on 12 weeks, but the test I have is just enough for 15. As for HCG, I don't think I can take all that pinning my first time.
    With the hcg you only need 250iu twice a week while on cycle. And you could start about four weeks in. Allot less pins then doing ten days straight at 500 each day :P
    Most guys stick to 12 weeks cause the gains slow down. The shorter the better if possible.

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    From what I read and understood I thought there were 2 options when it comes to HCG :

    #1 Use 500iu's of HCG every day for the 10 days leading up to 4 days before your SERM treatment.

    #2 Use 500iu's a week of HCG for your entire cycle. AND use 500iu's every day for the 10 days leading up to 4 days before SERM treatment.

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    I agree- i would add the HCG --- I did two shots weekly @ 250 each start to finish ........

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElliotMax View Post
    I've beening doing a lot of researching/ reading/ asking and what not, and I think I'm finally ready to start. I just want the vets here to have a final look and hear their critique/ advice. Here's how the blue print for my cycle looks like so far:

    Week 1 - 7:

    Day 1: 10mg Aromasin
    Day 2: 10mg Aromasin
    Day 3: 10mg Aromasin/ 250mg Test E
    Day 4: 10mg Aromasin
    Day 5: 10mg Aromasin
    Day 6: 10mg Aromasin
    Day 7: 10mg Aromasin/ 250mg Test E

    Week 8 - 15*:

    Day 1: 10mg Aromasin/ 60mg Var
    Day 2: 10mg Aromasin/ 60mg Var
    Day 3: 10mg Aromasin/ 60mg Var/ 250mg Test E
    Day 4: 10mg Aromasin/ 60mg Var
    Day 5: 10mg Aromasin/ 60mg Var
    Day 6: 10mg Aromasin/ 60mg Var
    Day 7: 10mg Aromasin/ 60mg Var/ 250mg Test E

    *I will also be taking liver support supplement starting week 8.

    PCT:

    Day 1 - 10: 20mg Aromasin/ 500iu HCG ED
    Day 11 - 14: 20mg Aromasin ED
    Day 15 - 43: 20mg Aromasin/ 50mg Clomid ED

    Also, here's a before pic I just took:

    <img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=131018"/>
    This needs work man... Ai dosing us wrong, pct is wrong, first cycle should be test only, and the two hcg protocols you listed aren't really up to date. And how old are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyphy_beast View Post
    This needs work man... Ai dosing us wrong, pct is wrong, first cycle should be test only, and the two hcg protocols you listed aren't really up to date. And how old are you?

    AI dosing, PCT and HCG are all straight out of stickies.

    Can you please refer me to some links/ sources with the correct dosage you recommend?

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    I would run the AI eod not ed. Your pct is horrible. Run clomid and nolva. 4 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElliotMax View Post

    AI dosing, PCT and HCG are all straight out of stickies.

    Can you please refer me to some links/ sources with the correct dosage you recommend?
    I'm working man I don't really have time to do that, but for one I wouldn't run ai ed unless you need to, and just run hcg at steady 250iu 2x/week up until a few days before pct, no need to blast it, that will cause even more if a hormonal imbalance. Pct should be standard nolva and clomid... 40/40/20/20 and 100/50/50/50

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    21 is not a good age to start AAS. Besides, your knowledge of the compounds is severly lacking. Especially when it comes to AI, HCG and PCT. I know, you came here to learn, and that's great! But you need to also know that starting at your age could lead to permanent damage to your endocrine system. And to do that is never worth it.

    We have some great stickies here and in the Educational Forum. I suggest you read them. Start here w/marcus300's "the young and steroids ."

    Stick around and learn while you're still growing. Get yourself a good diet and a good training regimen. That's all you need right now.

    Good Luck

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