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12-29-2012, 07:47 PM #1New Member
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Anavar for 21 year old safe on hormones?
Recently I've dropped 90 lbs in a little over a year, I still have a little ways to go, but, right now, I want to get rid of my love handles and excess fat as soon as possible. Before anyone asks, my diet is fine, I workout correctly, I don't starve myself, and I eat no junk food of any type at all, occasionally a snickers bar just to feed a chocolate craving. Now, I'm 21 years old, and I understand that running certain cycles can seriously screw up my hormones for life. I don't want that, I'm not ready to take that risk yet for aesthetic purposes. I am extremely curious though as to what the effects on someone my age would be taking anavar . Will I experience any life altering sides? Will it mess with anything permanently? Im asking here in hope of a scientific answer of someone knowledgable on the chemistry of steroids and the human body, or possibly someone who has taken it at my age and had proper check ups after. Thank you.
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12-29-2012, 08:09 PM #2
Stats? bodyweight? Bf%?
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12-29-2012, 08:12 PM #3New Member
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I'm 6'2" 193 lbs, last I checked somewhere around 13% bf.
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12-29-2012, 08:14 PM #4
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12-29-2012, 08:14 PM #5
Has your progress stalled? Why are you looking at using anavar ?
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12-29-2012, 08:18 PM #6New Member
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My progress hasn't stalled from the rest of my body, but from my love handles it has, and honestly, I've put so much work into getting in shape the last year, I'd just truly like to see the results shine through. I had stalled at 200 and just recently broke through that plateau by adjusting cardio and diet. As far as test goes, I'd like to see some muscle gains from doing it obviously, but doesn't using test run some risks as well to someone my age? And I'm also thinning in my hair as well as my gut, so I'd like to stay away from anything that will bald me quicker haha.
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12-29-2012, 08:30 PM #7New Member
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12-29-2012, 08:49 PM #8
About a month ago or so a kid around your age ran Var.Now he is having ED problems.Playing around with your endo system at your age isnt a smart thing Bro.
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12-29-2012, 08:54 PM #9New Member
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I see, effects on the endo system is something I haven't even began to research yet. That's why I can here. Now, is that one of the only major problems with someone my age running var? Or is there more. Is there anything to run during a cycle or safety measures to take to keep this from happening? Money isn't a problem when dealing with my body. And if you and others truly believe there's no way to run this without lowering the chances of harming my self, then ill probably stay away and keep grinding.
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12-29-2012, 08:57 PM #10
I'd stick to some good old fashioned food and a solid gym routine rather then sticking to gear. Give it a few years then try a test only cycle. Probably your best way to go. The cons at your age highly overpower the pros.
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12-29-2012, 08:58 PM #11
You don't need anavar . Lets see your diet.
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12-29-2012, 09:13 PM #12New Member
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My diet is generally 4 egg whites or oatmeal every morning, carrots or celery as a snack in between all meals, for lunch I have a protein shake with a fiber bar and skin milk, in my protein shake I have fitness fiber and glutamine, then as a snack in between dinner I try to have beef jerky once in a while, one serving never more, nuts, carrots or celery, and for dinner I have chicken, fish, and occasionally home made pizza. My supps as of now are, opti men from optimum nutrition. Flaxseed oil from optimum nutrition. And from muscle pharm I run, CLAs BCAAs fish oil and ZMAs. My "fat burner" is oxy elite pro. Idk if it helps me burn fat, but I can attest to its appetite suppression.
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12-29-2012, 09:15 PM #13
You ever consider trying a Keto cut? I'm going to try one for my first time this spring. Could be worth reading up on.
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12-29-2012, 09:17 PM #14New Member
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I try to stick to under 1800 calories, I never exceed 2000. I go to the gym Monday - Saturday I alternate cardio high intensity 60 mins one day 30 the next. As far as lifting goes, I try to keep it between 1-2 muscle groups M-F high reps low weight on everything but backs, bis, and tris, I've had more success lifting heavier lower reps.
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12-29-2012, 09:19 PM #15New Member
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Ill read up on it now and see if i like the sound of it, I like to cycle of oxy elite because I feel the effects less if I use it too often. I was looking at stuff called katanadrol and halo extreme, I was hoping to get information on those as well. Know anything?
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12-29-2012, 09:23 PM #16
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12-29-2012, 09:24 PM #17New Member
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Oh keto cut is a diet, lmao.
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12-29-2012, 09:26 PM #18New Member
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Thank you man, honestly, I think that's all I'm struggling with, I'm extremely happy with what I've done thus far, but there'a still fat left haha. So I get bummed some times and just want to do whatever I can to help it all pay off. Btw I wasn't laughing cause it's a diet, I was laughing at myself cause I thought it was a fat burner.
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12-29-2012, 09:27 PM #19
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12-29-2012, 09:39 PM #20New Member
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But, back to the var. if I were to decide to run a cycle, what would I do to be 100% safe. 100% meaning there's nothing else I could of done next to not running a cycle to prevent bad things from happening. I'd like to promise everyone here that I haven't wasted their time, but I'm young dumb and full of cum. I can't predict where my immaturity will end up taking me.
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12-29-2012, 09:46 PM #21New Member
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Your training looks good - Maybe increase weight training intensity to increase 24 hour calorie burn rates, and try cycling your diet a bit. The body adapts to steady diets very quickly. I would try a few different diets over 8 week cycles to see how your body responds. Some diets that have been a good change of pace for me are: Low/No Carbs on weekdays - then 70/25/5 Carbs/Protein/Fat on Weekends, the Paleo Diet, and feast/famine diets - 3 weeks 100-200 calorie surplus then 2 weeks 1000 calorie deficit. Good Luck as long as you keep training and experimenting over the next couple years, you'll see results and find out what works best for you with the bonus of never needing AS unless you take it to the next level.
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12-29-2012, 09:51 PM #22New Member
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Thank you, I think I will try to cycle my diet, honesty I've only changed it about 3 times over a year. And I saw results at my 200lbs plateau from changing. I appreciate your advice everyone and I will look into all of this.
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12-29-2012, 09:52 PM #23
Krackerr....
I'm going to speak to to you from the point that I too at one point cut a lot of fat in about a year.... to be exact, I when from 6'1 260 to 187 in about 11 months. I know what you mean when you say you want to get rid of the love handles.... but the truth is, you probably don't have them, if you're 13% bf
One of 2 things is probably going on.... you have loose skin which will tighten with continued exercise and proper diet, or your hip bones make you think you have love handles.... I had the same issue. I have attached a pic of me at 187lbs and about 12% bf. I seriously thought I was still fat and had love handles.... The mind is a powerful thing and it can make you see whatever you want to see. Can you please post a pic so we can help advise you better.
Now as for Anavar cycles... I have experience in that area as well. I have done Var only cycles and var in a stack.
The truth is Var can and will shut your natural test production down and I know for a fact because I had blood work done during and after the Var cycle.... it effects each person different, no one can give you and exact answer, it shut me down hard!
The fact is this, at 21 while you're still developing, do you really want to shut yourself down and risk long term effects. I promise you its not worth it, especially if you haven't plateaued yet and you'r still able to lose fat. Just keep working hard and you'll get what you want... I promise.
If you can post that pic of yourself, it will definitely help us help you.
Bert
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12-29-2012, 09:52 PM #24New Member
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There are no 100% safe cycles, even when following best practices. If you wan't to run the risk of screwing your endocrine system up and dealing with heightened likelihood of side effects at your age, check the newbie cycle threads get some Test E, AI's, and PCT's and hope for the best. Based on your stats, you should still have a lot of potential to make natural gains through training and diet tweaks.
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12-29-2012, 10:03 PM #25New Member
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Thank you Coeus, I was speaking on doing everything I could, meaning 100% of safety utilities used. But I understand, you can tell I'm still tentative about running them, which means I probably shouldn't do it. But I will try to tweak things more before I run the cycle, IF I run the cycle. I have a buddy who tells me everything will be cool. And I always want to punch him in the face, because I know he can't guarantee that, as much as I can't.
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12-29-2012, 10:12 PM #26New Member
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here's a picture. Also do I have gyno from being a fat little kid? Or can the man boobs I have be sculpted. I've always been curious about this.
Last edited by Krackerr; 12-31-2012 at 06:05 AM.
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12-29-2012, 10:24 PM #27New Member
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Btw, my back is solid except for my love handles, the only real problem areas for me are everyone else's problem areas, chest, love handles, belly, but I just started making some progress in my cheat and my stomach looks like a models compared to what it used to be. I have a little fat up by where my shoulders and biceps meet, and my legs almost have no fat because even when I was at 280. I still played alot of sports. And with going to the gym so much, they're in the best chase ever.
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12-29-2012, 10:25 PM #28
Good for you for dropping that much fat, that's a huge accomplishment.
Honestly, it's looks to me like that's just loose skin. Just focus on toning with weights and sit ups and all that skin will tighten and you'll look great it should only take a couple months.
Oh and you can't get gyno just from being a fatty at least not that I've ever heard.
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12-29-2012, 10:26 PM #29New Member
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Oh yeah a little fat where my bicep ends towards my forearms too. I've been trying to get rid of that, but I'm assuming it will come with time.
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12-29-2012, 10:34 PM #30New Member
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Well thank you sir. From what I've read, it's possible because of the excess fat some how increases estrogen levels creating gyno. These are Internet doctors so I never took it to heart, I just always questioned it. Ill start doing more intense core workouts and see if this helps with a tweaked diet. I want to get to about 175 before summer. Does that sound about right? And then I went to go up to 195, 200 with muscle and maintain until I want to get bigger.
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12-29-2012, 10:40 PM #31
175 is fine based on your frame, but at any point you can decide to focus on slowly adding muscle with proper diet and workout. You have to remember as you add lean mass, you bf% will go down. Also if you maintain a proper cardio regiment while gaining lean mass you can still cut fat if done properly. IMO, you don't need to get to 175.... 190 or 185 would be perfect to turn it around and focus on toning and gaining lean mass.
Oh and BTW.... Anavar wouldn't do much to help in your current situation, so def no point in potentially affecting your endocrine system.
Good Luck!
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12-29-2012, 10:45 PM #32New Member
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Thanks bud, appreciate the help. Appreciate the help everyone. Thank you for your time.
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12-30-2012, 03:50 PM #33
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12-30-2012, 04:35 PM #34
Krackerr, please see my thread here: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...n-is-concerned!!
Anavar is not 'safe on hormones' by any means at all. I have not read any of the replies others have made to you in this thread but I am sure you have been given very good advice. I thought i'd direct you to my thread I just made, as it contains information that will show you just how harsh Anavar is on your natural endogenous Testosterone production.
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