shaking gear

[woodrowdu]

Hey everyone,
Heres my concern. Have 2 bottles of a mix of TREN A - TEST PROP... 400mg/ml.....tanish liquid and oily. Was told to shake it before use, but when i do it gets milky colored. Is this something normal? Was told it`s great stuff and real. Just needs to be shaken....HELP!!

[Lunk1]

Hey everyone,
Heres my concern. Have 2 bottles of a mix of TREN A - TEST PROP... 400mg/ml.....tanish liquid and oily. Was told to shake it before use, but when i do it gets milky colored. Is this something normal? Was told it`s great stuff and real. Just needs to be shaken....HELP!!

Should not have to shake it...only gear I have ever shook is suspension!

[Soar]

Milky almost sounds like winny?

[woodrowdu]

You think it became milky because i shook it and dont need to?

[Lunk1]

Your not going to hurt anything by shaking it but it should not be necessary. Is there a milky color settled at the bottom or sitting on the top before you shake it? Can you see a seperation?

[fit2bOld]

Probally shook the hell out of it and introduced air to it. It should just be a light amber color that is consistent.

[gixxerboy1]

those products should never be milky. Sounds like you have something else or they are contaminated. I would not use them

[Lunk1]

those products should never be milky. Sounds like you have something else or they are contaminated. I would not use them

Yup...I'm thinking maybe some moisture in the vial!

[woodrowdu]

Before i shook it, the top half is light amber and the bottom half is light yellow with oil globs in between colors.

[Soar]

Weird, just sounds like two oils getting the hell shook out of them lol. Still don't think I'd use it.. The source trusted?

[Lunk1]

Before i shook it, the top half is light amber and the bottom half is light yellow with oil globs in between colors.

Can you post a pic of it? Honestly I don't think I would use it! You shouldnt see anything except a vial full of oil!

[gixxerboy1]

Before i shook it, the top half is light amber and the bottom half is light yellow with oil globs in between colors.

there shouldnt be any separation or look like a lava lamp. Something is wrong with it. Unless its a suspension which it is not. No gear requires to be shaken

[stpete]

This doesn't sound good. I wouldn't use it either. And get your dude to find out what's going on.

[ecruz]

i dont shaking it will ruin the gear however make sure you get all the air bubbles out of the pin before you hit

[diesel101]

A wise man told me never inject anything into youre body unless you know 100% what it is.

[Soar]

A wise man told me never inject anything into youre body unless you know 100% what it is.

Finally a wise man that makes sense lol. Getting tired of these guys coming in at the age of 18-21 with coaches pushing steroids ...

[panntastic]

It's definitely got moisture in there and a lot of it by sounds of it!
As for prop and tren ace at 400mg/ml no no no!!!
That's not gonna hold no way sorry
If that's what you say it is you may aswell get a wheel chair as your not gonna walk after shooting that sorry

[Soar]

It's definitely got moisture in there and a lot of it by sounds of it!
As for prop and tren ace at 400mg/ml no no no!!!
That's not gonna hold no way sorry
If that's what you say it is you may aswell get a wheel chair as your not gonna walk after shooting that sorry

^ Coming from a Chef! This is why I love this site lol tons of knowledge to keep people out of wheelchairs haha

[clarky.]

I'v used tren / test blends before its nothing like that it's your normal oil amber colour.

[fit2bOld]

Throw it away. Just not supposed to be like that sounds like some piss water mixed with some leftover Tren . Lord knows what the globs are? Motor oil?

[clarky.]

^^^^^^^^ x2

[panntastic]

Throw it away. Just not supposed to be like that sounds like some piss water mixed with some leftover Tren. Lord knows what the globs are? Motor oil?

Grab some cooking oil and drop a few drops of water into it and give it a shake.
It will emulsify for a few minutes then start to displace back into water and oil

[woodrowdu]

I've known my guy for over 20 years. He's got a lot of knowledge about this kind of stuff. Called him with all of your responses. Says he would never push something dangerous on anyone. Says there is nothing wrong with it. He plans on doing the same gear next month. Says it's because of where it's made and he has seen it before looking like that. Says stuff can differ depending where around the globe it's made. I may let hi
Hit it and see how he does. If in doubt I will toss it out. Why would I need a wheelchair? I've researched the Ef out of this mix and am confident. ( other than the milkiness ) that it is for me.

[woodrowdu]

Yes. The oil is amber. But the amber color is on the top half of the vial. The piss color is on the bottom half. My guy still says there's nothing wrong. Shake the shit out of it so it mixes and jack it. Another dude using the same gear is seeing great results.

[Bigshotvictoria]

I've known my guy for over 20 years. He's got a lot of knowledge about this kind of stuff. Called him with all of your responses. Says he would never push something dangerous on anyone. Says there is nothing wrong with it. He plans on doing the same gear next month. Says it's because of where it's made and he has seen it before looking like that. Says stuff can differ depending where around the globe it's made. I may let hi
Hit it and see how he does. If in doubt I will toss it out. Why would I need a wheelchair? I've researched the Ef out of this mix and am confident. ( other than the milkiness ) that it is for me.

I know your guy says there's nothing wrong with it, but think about it. If he admits it's off, he has to give you your money back, and anyone else you tell thats got the same stuff. Then he'll loose all of your business because he knowingly sold you crap. Remember, steroid dealer=drug dealer. Would you trust a cocaine dealer? It's also easy for him to say he'll use it in a month. He might, if it doesn't hurt you. If he's as good a buddy as you say he is, he'll have no problem giving you your money back if you tell him you're not comfortable doing it. If he refuses, it's definitely suspect and should be trashed. You only get one body in this life, don't risk it on some guys word.

[bigZthedestroyer]

I read an article in MD magazine by the anabolic doc a month back. Here's what he had to say...

[woodrowdu]

I'll try to post a pic of the gear. That way you guys can say go or no. If I did decide to at least try it, what problems might I run into?

[panntastic]

I've known my guy for over 20 years. He's got a lot of knowledge about this kind of stuff. Called him with all of your responses. Says he would never push something dangerous on anyone. Says there is nothing wrong with it. He plans on doing the same gear next month. Says it's because of where it's made and he has seen it before looking like that. Says stuff can differ depending where around the globe it's made. I may let hi
Hit it and see how he does. If in doubt I will toss it out. Why would I need a wheelchair? I've researched the Ef out of this mix and am confident. ( other than the milkiness ) that it is for me.

Your telling me you've found tren acetate and test prop for sale at 400mg/ml?
I'm calling BS all day long here!
I've been brewing for years now and @100mg/ml isn't considered "stable" so 200mg/ml definitely isn't!
Other than using an eo carrier and introducing high amounts of guiacol to the mix there's not a snowflakes chance in hell it's going to work sorry!

As for the wheelchair comment
It's going to hurt and I mean hurt a lot!
The pip at them concentrations due to the insane amount of BA is going to be agonising!
I'm saying ed or eod shots of this concoction is going to put you in a world of hurt!

I've had a crack at silly concentrations just for sheer morbid curiosity and after a complete eo carrier 8% BA and 25% bb I got prop to hold at 150mg/ml and i couldn't lift my arm for days!

So imagine the pain at 400mg/ml!!!!

As for the need to mix it by shaking I would firstly re filter that into a sterile vial and autoclave the crap out of it.

[Bigshotvictoria]

I'll try to post a pic of the gear. That way you guys can say go or no. If I did decide to at least try it, what problems might I run into?

1)It does what it's supposed to (I highly doubt this from your description)
2)Absolutely nothing happens
3)Infection: This could cause an abscess, cellulitis, blood born staff, and any number of really nasty bugs that you've just put directly into the skin, subcue tissue, muscle, and blood. The vast majority of these require medical intervention.

What is the potential cost Vs. benefit of doing this?

To me it's a no brainer. get your money back.

[gixxerboy1]

1)It does what it's supposed to (I highly doubt this from your description)
2)Absolutely nothing happens
3)Infection: This could cause an abscess, cellulitis, blood born staff, and any number of really nasty bugs that you've just put directly into the skin, subcue tissue, muscle, and blood. The vast majority of these require medical intervention.

What is the potential cost Vs. benefit of doing this?

To me it's a no brainer. get your money back.

exactly you are injecting this inside you. Really are you that desperate to run steroids you would take the risk even though every one who has nothing vesting in it is tell you its bad. The only person saying its ok is your drug dealer. He is telling you complete bullshit. I have been in the game for a long time, got shit from all around the globe, Never had shit that looked like you are describing. You got garbage, get your money back or throw it out

[woodrowdu]

Thanks for all the comments. I agree with you all. I had a weird feeling about the milky color and shaking it from the beginning. That's why I haven't pinned it. I'm going to contact my bud and tell him he can do this stuff if he wants. I would rather try to find something more legit. No idea how but, I'll try.

[panntastic]

Thanks for all the comments. I agree with you all. I had a weird feeling about the milky color and shaking it from the beginning. That's why I haven't pinned it. I'm going to contact my bud and tell him he can do this stuff if he wants. I would rather try to find something more legit. No idea how but, I'll try.

I wasn't trying to be an ass mate
I've been brewing a while and feel I have somewhat perfected painfree personal use steroids and no way what you've described is possible

[ironbeck]

unless I made the shit or got from a friend who brews I would not put the shit your describing in your body dude, and as for the concentrations.....it's not likely 400mg/ml listen to panntastic its bull shit.

[Lunk1]

Thanks for all the comments. I agree with you all. I had a weird feeling about the milky color and shaking it from the beginning. That's why I haven't pinned it. I'm going to contact my bud and tell him he can do this stuff if he wants. I would rather try to find something more legit. No idea how but, I'll try.

I trust my guy as well. I have done alot of business with him. I got some Mast that he swore was the best ever. It was supposed to be in EO and very good quality. When it came it was cloudy and I'm sure somehow got moisture since EO should be very clear. The guys here confirmed what I already feared.

My point is...even if your guy has been great, your still dealing with UGL's and shyt happens. If he values your business he will take it back and replace it. Hell if I were you I would go with Test and Tren seperate anyhow. It allows better dosing protocols!

[Bigshotvictoria]

Thanks for all the comments. I agree with you all. I had a weird feeling about the milky color and shaking it from the beginning. That's why I haven't pinned it. I'm going to contact my bud and tell him he can do this stuff if he wants. I would rather try to find something more legit. No idea how but, I'll try.

That "weird feeling" is what's called "felt sense". It's the body's physical reaction to the subconscious mind, telling you something is up even though your conscious mind can't make heads or tail of it. You do not want to ignore that gut feeling bro. Stay in the gym, tighten up your diet, and make friends while you train. Eventually you'll find another source, you'll just meet people in the know. Then we can go through this again and make sure it's legit.

Good choice bud!!!

[songdog]

i dont shaking it will ruin the gear however make sure you get all the air bubbles out of the pin before you hit

Where do you get this from? Bro you are way off track.You been hanging out with Lunk too much