Question for the vets......

**REBORN52** · 01-11-2013, 10:36 PM

.....the first Test E I received was pretty thick, and took a while to go in using 23 g. I have some more from different outfit and it's thinner, goes in much easier/faster.

Does this mean the second batch is watered down, or could it be what was used in making it?

As always, thanks for the time to respond.....

**Atomini** · 01-11-2013, 10:41 PM

It's normal, and drawing with a 23g is going to be tough regardless because of the thin gauge. I use a 19g for withdrawing. Aside from that, different labs use different types of oils in their brewing. There are literally hundreds of different types of oils they brew with. How much cosolvent they add is also a factor for the viscosity of the liquid.

**REBORN52** · 01-11-2013, 10:49 PM

the first time I drew with a 21, but this time I just used a 23. That's what concerned me was this second batch was thinner, much easier to draw, and took half the time to inject. But after I thought about it, it made sense that just because it's thinner doesn't necessarily mean it has less test. Thanks for clearing that up, thought I might have got a watered down batch, but everything I've researched on them has been top notch....

**Atomini** · 01-11-2013, 11:13 PM

You can't "water" down oil-based substances lol. So there's no way of telling just by that fact alone. If you had more or less Testosterone in your product, it wouldn't affect the viscosity of the fluid anyhow.

**panntastic** · 01-12-2013, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by REBORN52

the first time I drew with a 21, but this time I just used a 23. That's what concerned me was this second batch was thinner, much easier to draw, and took half the time to inject. But after I thought about it, it made sense that just because it's thinner doesn't necessarily mean it has less test. Thanks for clearing that up, thought I might have got a watered down batch, but everything I've researched on them has been top notch....

The thinner batch may have some ethyl oleate in giving it the "watered down" effect you speak of but as atomini said you can't water it down.
It can be cut with extra solvent / co solvent etc though.
And he is also spot on with the oil used as they all have different viscosity from one to the next

**REBORN52** · 01-12-2013, 10:27 AM

One more question for you guys: I'm trying to find the safest way to dissolve oral Winstrol crystals. First, when I shake it up, the content seems to mix pretty well just by shaking, but there's still some crystals. Second, I've researched and saw different ways. The guy I received it from said put it in microwave for 30 seconds, run cool tap water over it, take the hot air out with needle/syringe, and give it a good shake (if necessary). The thing that concerns me about this is the metal cap/ring, and I'm assuming I would need to leave the ring on? He hasn't led me astray yet, so I'm assuming he's factored in the metal, but I would think it needs to stay on?

Then I've read where it can be put in a pot of hot water in the stove then run cool tap water over it. If this is the way to go, how hot do I get the water, and how long do I warm it?

Thanks again, I just don't want to mess up a big jug of this stuff.....

**Atomini** · 01-12-2013, 10:41 AM

I wouldn't even mess with that... just withdraw your Winstrol and inject it (or drink it, yes injectable Winstrol in case you didn't already know can be absorbed orally because the injectable and oral Winstrol chemical structures are the exact same). I'm sure heating it up a bit would help it dissolve better as it is water-based, but I wouldn't put it in the microwave. The farthest i'd go is to let half the vial sit in a shallow bowl filled with very hot water for a few minutes prior to injection, but that's about it.