HCG from another forum

**clarky.** · 01-13-2013, 07:26 AM

Hi guys i was looking at another forum uk muscle on their thread about hcg . Alot of there members take 1000iu shots pw and when they blast they use 5000iu a week for 4 weeks b4 pct. Some mix hcg in the same barrel as their test. Some use no ai on cycle they use nolve with their hcg. So i was wondering what your thoughts were on this? Because what i've learned here is 2x 250iu week the day before test always ai on cycle which is what i do and searm for pct. I would think 1000iu week would be a waste. There was also this hcg gyno. Hcg can cause gyno this is probably due to hcgs ability to increase the dynamics of the cyp450 enzyme. The aromatase enzyme is part of this family so it is possible to note a marked increase in aromatase activity. This should not prove to be a problem if you are already taking an ai on cycle for estrogen management.But its something that you need to be aware of. So you would think alot of these members would use an ai on cycle. So what are your thoughts on these kinds of doses? Thanks guys

**panntastic** · 01-13-2013, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by clarky.

Hi guys i was looking at another forum uk muscle on their thread about hcg. Alot of there members take 1000iu shots pw and when they blast they use 5000iu a week for 4 weeks b4 pct. Some mix hcg in the same barrel as their test. Some use no ai on cycle they use nolve with their hcg. So i was wondering what your thoughts were on this? Because what i've learned here is 2x 250iu week the day before test always ai on cycle which is what i do and searm for pct. I would think 1000iu week would be a waste. There was also this hcg gyno. Hcg can cause gyno this is probably due to hcgs ability to increase the dynamics of the cyp450 enzyme. The aromatase enzyme is part of this family so it is possible to note a marked increase in aromatase activity. This should not prove to be a problem if you are already taking an ai on cycle for estrogen management.But its something that you need to be aware of. So you would think alot of these members would use an ai on cycle. So what are your thoughts on these kinds of doses? Thanks guys

I don't really know a lot of info on hcg and will never profess that I do.
I read swiftos sticky on it over and over again so can only quote from that.
If I remember correctly hcg in high doses increases type 2 estrogen levels.
As for the members of another board I can comment.
And AI should be used every cycle and if they choose not to so be it.
Around here the guys promote safe cycling and do a damn good job at it
I also believe a lot of other boards bro science is king not actual science
Which is a shame especially when it comes to injecting yourself with compounds you haven't researched because a "bro" says its best.

Sorry can't really shed any decent info on your questions

**clarky.** · 01-13-2013, 08:24 AM

I dont know mutch about it my self i only know what i'v learned here its when you see what other ppl are taking those kind of doses it looks mad

**gymsoldier** · 01-13-2013, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by clarky.

they use 5000iu a week for 4 weeks b4 pct.

Would this not desensitise the Leydig cells?

Originally Posted by clarky.

Some mix hcg in the same barrel as their test.

I wouldn't worry too much about this, any HCG I've ever gotten always said it was for IM.

**clarky.** · 01-13-2013, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by gymsoldier

Would this not desensitise the Leydig cells?

Thats what i thought from what i'v learned here.
I wouldn't worry too much about this, any HCG I've ever gotten always said it was for IM.

I know it can b done IM or SUB Q but what alot of ppl here do is the day b4 aas protocol a would always go whith the advice i get from the well educated members of this board.

**>Good Luck<** · 01-13-2013, 08:57 AM

If you read Ronnie rowlands thread on blast and cruise you'll see he often recommends hcg as a pct @ 2500iu eod for 3 weeks. That's 9000iu weekly but he seems to know his stuff so I've never questioned him.

For me, 250iu twice weekly works fine for me

**panntastic** · 01-13-2013, 08:59 AM

Here are some good threads for you

The top one by Swifto is a very comprehensive guide
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=349581

HCG (Pregnyl) FAQ

**clarky.** · 01-13-2013, 09:04 AM

A dont fancy the blast a would be doing the same as your self 250iu 2x week if that works i know every 1 is different why would ppl just jump straight in @1000iu a week thats shit advice there getting

**clarky.** · 01-13-2013, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by panntastic

Here are some good threads for you

The top one by Swifto is a very comprehensive guide
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=349581

HCG (Pregnyl) FAQ

Thanks

**clarky.** · 01-13-2013, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by panntastic

Here are some good threads for you

The top one by Swifto is a very comprehensive guide
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=349581

HCG (Pregnyl) FAQ

I'v read them b4

**panntastic** · 01-13-2013, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by clarky.

I'v read them b4

Do they not answer any of your questions then?

**clarky.** · 01-13-2013, 09:36 AM

Yes it was just to hear ppls thoughts on the diffrent dosing protocols thats all just thought they were on the high side

**testluva** · 01-13-2013, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by >Good Luck<

If you read Ronnie rowlands thread on blast and cruise you'll see he often recommends hcg as a pct @ 2500iu eod for 3 weeks. That's 9000iu weekly but he seems to know his stuff so I've never questioned him.

For me, 250iu twice weekly works fine for me

That's what my doctor has me on as part of my PCT. it's from the medical desktop reference.