loss of libido, help!

**broesb4hos** · 01-18-2013, 10:27 PM

Forum friends,

Here is a little bit about me:

5'11", 190 lbs, 10% body fat, work out 5-6 times a week, 26 yrs old, been working out for 10 years now.

Background and relevant facts:

I have read various posts now about using AAS at a young age and feel like I may have been affected by not using them properly when I was 21 and again when I was 23. When I was 21, I only cycled for 6 weeks (1cc per week) and used sustaplex, I don't think I even used a pct and I know I definately did not use an ai for that cycle. When I was 23 I tried doing another cycle but timing was really bad and I only ended up using it for 2 or 3 weeks (1cc per week). For this cycle I can't recall what I used but I believe it was sustanon . Anyway, for the past 2 years I have been having some problems with keeping an erection for an extended period of time during sex or masturbation and my erection does not feel as strong as it did before but other than that I feel fine. I don't feel lethargic, I don't have b*tch tits, my testicles are normal size, and my ejaculations are normal (not watery). Also, some men say they experience depression due to low natural T levels but I have not felt depressed for the last 2 years; however, im begging to feel depressed because of my poor performance in the bedroom and how it is affecting my relationship with my f*ck buddy. My doctor also said that estrogen should not be out of whack because I have no "feminizing" characteristics (i.e. loss of body or facial hair, in fact my beard has never been thicker) My doctor also said that he thinks its purely psychological and stress can effect the strength of an erection... When I watch Po rn I can ejaculate just fine... i don't know if its just me but if i get distracted or my mind wanders during masterbation or otherwise I tend to lose my hard on. This never used to be the case... i had se x the other day same thing happend, lost my hard on during se x but then got off in the end... I don't know...

That being said, here are the results of my most recent blood work ups:

1st blood work up:

Free Test: 125 pg/ml 47-244
Total Test: 627 ng/dl 300-1080
Sex Hormone binding Globulin: 32 mmol/L 11-80
TSH: 1.09 uIU/mL .34-5.6

Second blood work up:

Test: 445 ng/dl 170- seven hundred eighty (spelled it out since it wont let me type the numbers)
LH: 7.3 miu/ml. 1.2-8.6
FSH: 2.6 miu/ml. 1.3-19.3
Prolactin: 16 ng/ml. 2.6-13.1

The 2nd time around I went to see an Endo. He said that my prolactin is out of the normal range possibly because of the anti depressant I have recently started taking (been on it for about 4 weeks now) or probably because I'm experiencing a lot of stress in my life. Which seems like they both might be causing my increased prolactin levels. I am in my final semester of school and taking very advanced accounting classes plus I am preparing for the CPA and working part time so I have a lot of pressure since the stakes are high. This ED situation is making it worse and on top of that I feel like I am losing my hot f*ck buddy b/c of this... I'm so mad because he is a keeper and now I feel like I scared him away.... Fml. What are your thoughts on my BW? My Endo says that he wants to do an MRI of my pituitary gland if the second blood test for prolactin is out of the normal range again after stopping the anti-depressants.... I don't know if that would really make a difference or what he hopes to find with that. I also suggested doing an e2 test but the Endo said it would be pointless for the same reasons the urologist mentioned. So far it seems my ED is psychological but I want to make sure 100% that this ED was not caused by my prior AAS use when I was 21 & 23... Comments? Was there anything I missed in my blood work ups?

Thanks for your input, I really appreciate it.

**BBJT200** · 01-19-2013, 02:34 AM

privatemdlabs will order any lab you want. In my opinion, getting your estrogen levels checked *could* be helpful.

The elevated prolactin levels could be what's causing all of this, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case.

With AAS such as 19nors (which are prolactins), there's the dreaded side effects of "tren -dick" and "deca -dick." This is caused by prolactin levels being out of whack; from my understanding it is when they are too high. On a cycle of tren or deca, users often use cabergoline or Pramipexol to treat this. That may very well help you!

**ScotchGuard02** · 01-19-2013, 04:52 AM

Using AI to maintain your estrogen can also help maintain your prolactin level. I used prami before it did nothing for me. I'd try the caber if you have access to it.

**The Bear 79** · 01-19-2013, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by JTathlete

privatemdlabs will order any lab you want. In my opinion, getting your estrogen levels checked *could* be helpful.

The elevated prolactin levels could be what's causing all of this, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case.

With AAS such as 19nors (which are prolactins), there's the dreaded side effects of "tren-dick" and "deca-dick." This is caused by prolactin levels being out of whack; from my understanding it is when they are too high. On a cycle of tren or deca, users often use cabergoline or Pramipexol to treat this. That may very well help you!

Good post & good advice, but 19 nors are not prolactin's, you're not injecting prolactin into your body, you're injecting a compound that is known to raise prolactin levels as a side effect.

**broesb4hos** · 01-19-2013, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by JTathlete

privatemdlabs will order any lab you want. In my opinion, getting your estrogen levels checked *could* be helpful.

The elevated prolactin levels could be what's causing all of this, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case.

With AAS such as 19nors (which are prolactins), there's the dreaded side effects of "tren-dick" and "deca-dick." This is caused by prolactin levels being out of whack; from my understanding it is when they are too high. On a cycle of tren or deca, users often use cabergoline or Pramipexol to treat this. That may very well help you!

Would these compounds help me even though I have not cycled for the past three years?

**evander87** · 01-19-2013, 07:30 PM

Look up PT-141 it's done wonders for my libido recovery.

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**UnderTheRose** · 01-19-2013, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by evander87

Look up PT-141 it's done wonders for my libido recovery.

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^^^^ Thats basically Caber right, sold as research chem?

**evander87** · 01-20-2013, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by UnderTheRose

^^^^ Thats basically Caber right, sold as research chem?

Yes and no pt-141 is a peptide nothing like caber but it is sold as a research chem.

Had a friend over last night. Couldn't keep my hand off her. We had lots of fun. I'm horny as hell and the sex actually feels better.

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**The Bear 79** · 01-20-2013, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by evander87

Yes and no pt-141 is a peptide nothing like caber but it is sold as a research chem.

Had a boyfriend over last night. Couldn't keep my hand off him. We had lots of fun. I'm horny as hell and the sex actually feels better.

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Fixed.........

**BBJT200** · 01-21-2013, 12:59 AM

Lol^

**BBJT200** · 01-21-2013, 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by The Bear 79

Good post & good advice, but 19 nors are not prolactin's, you're not injecting prolactin into your body, you're injecting a compound that is known to raise prolactin levels as a side effect.

I was under the impression that they were actually progestins. I think I typed prolactin but meant progestin.
Thank you for correcting me!