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    Crashe vial causes???

    Quick question gents, can a Test Vial crash if it's fake gear?

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    Crash?

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    do you mean super fragile?

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    Crash as in crystallize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocRock View Post
    Crash as in crystallize.
    if you mean extremely under-dosed gear, or even just plain oil, then there is really nothing to crystallize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AD

    if you mean extremely under-dosed gear, or even just plain oil, then there is really nothing to crystallize.
    So it has to be legit gear in order for it to crystallize right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocRock

    So it has to be legit gear in order for it to crystallize right?
    What dosage is your gear?
    More often than not its high dosed gear that crashes due to not being stable in a solution.
    BUT!
    It may not have enough Benzyl alcohol or Benzyl benzoate in it, in the first place to keep it in a homogenous state.

    It may be that you've kept it in a cold place and its just come out of solution.

    There are many reasons AAS will crash the above is the main causes.

    What hormone is it you are having a problem with?

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    I have 300mg's of Test E. And I live in SoCal so I'm assuming it's over dosed.

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    i wish i had overdosed gear!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocRock
    I have 300mg's of Test E. And I live in SoCal so I'm assuming it's over dosed.
    I doubt it's over dosed for 1 second I just think there is very little solvent or co solvent in there.
    But it's very very hard to get test e to crash at low doses its nearly impossible. Can you post a pic?

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    Prop is what usually crashes the short Esther prevents it from holding well/dissolving into the solution. I have also seen crashed Cyp. Enanth never seen it personally. Do you know what crashed gear looks like? It has a very particular look. The test literally crystalizes and looks like rock candy or sharp edged glass shards. The remaining liquid is clear not murky cloudy or dirty the particles Are not round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valkyrie
    Prop is what usually crashes the short Esther prevents it from holding well/dissolving into the solution. I have also seen crashed Cyp. Enanth never seen it personally. Do you know what crashed gear looks like? It has a very particular look. The test literally crystalizes and looks like rock candy or sharp edged glass shards. The remaining liquid is clear not murky cloudy or dirty the particles Are not round.
    Yeah it was like rock candy on top near the hanging and some on the around the bottom. The liquid is clear, not murky and I can now see little crystals floating at the moment.

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    Sounds crashed to me and as posted up thread has to be test to come out. Now keep in mind if doesn't mean overdosed over what the label says the dose is. It just means overdosed as to over what the solution can hold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valkyrie
    Sounds crashed to me and as posted up thread has to be test to come out. Now keep in mind if doesn't mean overdosed over what the label says the dose is. It just means overdosed as to over what the solution can hold.
    So once its crashed can you fix it by slightly heating it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsiv

    So once its crashed can you fix it by slightly heating it?
    Yeah place vial in a bowl and fill up halfway of the vial with boiling water and let sit for a while till all crystals go back into solution.
    Keep eye on it incase it crashes again because you don't want it doing that in your muscle!

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    Quote Originally Posted by panntastic

    Yeah place vial in a bowl and fill up halfway of the vial with boiling water and let sit for a while till all crystals go back into solution.
    Keep eye on it incase it crashes again because you don't want it doing that in your muscle!
    Cheers Panntastic the reason I ask is because my source had a load of vials what had crashed only last night. I had never seen a crashed vial before but I guessed it was due to the high concentration 300mg test E/ 200mg deca .

    Another funny thing I noticed was the vials were different colours one was yellow the rest were clear????

    I would have thought the same oil would have been used strange

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    You can use crashed gear. Just reheat in water and use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02
    You can use crashed gear. Just reheat in water and use.
    Have to watch see if it crashes again soon after though

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsiv

    Cheers Panntastic the reason I ask is because my source had a load of vials what had crashed only last night. I had never seen a crashed vial before but I guessed it was due to the high concentration 300mg test E/ 200mg deca .

    Another funny thing I noticed was the vials were different colours one was yellow the rest were clear????

    I would have thought the same oil would have been used strange
    Quote Originally Posted by bigsiv

    Cheers Panntastic the reason I ask is because my source had a load of vials what had crashed only last night. I had never seen a crashed vial before but I guessed it was due to the high concentration 300mg test E/ 200mg deca.

    Another funny thing I noticed was the vials were different colours one was yellow the rest were clear????

    I would have thought the same oil would have been used strange
    If its from the same batch then yeah I agree but oil can be a funny bugger some times.
    It shouldn't really crash at 300 test e and 200 deca but if the incorrect amount of solvent or co solvent was used that will be why.
    If possible buy it all off him cheap and add some BA to it llol

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    It's not desperate compounds its test and deca mix 500mg in total that's why I thought it had crashed but I understand about the oil just seemed weird one vial being a different colour

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsiv
    It's not desperate compounds its test and deca mix 500mg in total that's why I thought it had crashed but I understand about the oil just seemed weird one vial being a different colour
    500mg is a high concentration without using either very high BA content or Ethyl Oleate to keep things stable

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    Quote Originally Posted by panntastic

    500mg is a high concentration without using either very high BA content or Ethyl Oleate to keep things stable
    Agreed maybe there is high concentrations I've seen 500mg before but only test. I'm using it soon so we will find out how bad pip is lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsiv

    Agreed maybe there is high concentrations I've seen 500mg before but only test. I'm using it soon so we will find out how bad pip is lol
    Lol
    I've seen it made as a blend before where people mix the raws together in the same beaker and make it that way.
    Or
    I've seen people that have made the 2 separate oils and just combined them in a vial.

    All depends how the ugl works you've purchased from.

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    Yeah I've never seen these blends like this before he had the exact same ratio with equipoise as well test e 300/ equipoise 200. Stupid really the ratios

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsiv
    Yeah I've never seen these blends like this before he had the exact same ratio with equipoise as well test e 300/ equipoise 200. Stupid really the ratios
    There is ugl around here that sells a blend of
    Test 400
    And eq 400
    That's crazy talk man

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    Quote Originally Posted by panntastic

    There is ugl around here that sells a blend of
    Test 400
    And eq 400
    That's crazy talk man
    Wow that's got to hurt lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by panntastic

    There is ugl around here that sells a blend of
    Test 400
    And eq 400
    That's crazy talk man
    Wow, that actually sounds amazing, but stupid for me at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panntastic

    There is ugl around here that sells a blend of
    Test 400
    And eq 400
    That's crazy talk man
    Wonder how many esters they use to get that test up to 400. Might be able to do 200/200 cyp and enth if you didn't also have the EQ in there. Not sure how much that would effect the solubility, but I can guarantee it would to some degree. You are also approaching a gram of powder per ml of oil at that concentration. No way you could convince me that isn't viscous like motor oil.

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