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    Irregular heart beat

    Ok so I have a irregular heart beat amd I have had it for years. My dr. Says a lot of people have and it nothing to worry about. I saw a specialist and they said the same thing. I never notice it and my resting hr is 63 my bp is 130/73. So should I be concerned for a 400mg test cycle for 12 weeks with an AI and HCG ?

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    no you should not be concerned. 130/73 is gtg.
    heart beat is fine. it may increase your bp a little on cycle but nothing to worry about.

    Did the doc say why they think you have a irregular?

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    Didnt say, but said a lot of have some are just more noticable than others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikingblood View Post
    Didnt say, but said a lot of have some are just more noticable than others.
    I would ask next time.

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    Sounds like atrial fibrillation (A fib). I'd be leery of using aas, since androgens have a number of effects on cardiac function (increased contractile force, heartrate, bp, etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Sounds like atrial fibrillation (A fib). I'd be leery of using aas, since androgens have a number of effects on cardiac function (increased contractile force, heartrate, bp, etc).
    This guy........ha ha. OP, I have had issues before as well, and Bonaparte fixed me right up with advice that was superior than my cardiologist!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Sounds like atrial fibrillation (A fib). I'd be leery of using aas, since androgens have a number of effects on cardiac function (increased contractile force, heartrate, bp, etc).
    Agreed. Sounds like afib or flutter. The increased blood pressure and blood volume from AAS as well as its affect on cardiac muscle might make your condition worse. I'm assuming your abnormal rhythm is only occasionally and this could make it constant. If you're insistent on doing a cycle, start low and go slow to make sure you don't affect your heart condition. Also avoid Tren .

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    AAS and Heart issues, not a good mix. you should stay away from roids IMO, especially of estrogen boosting roids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX
    AAS and Heart issues, not a good mix. you should stay away from roids IMO, especially of estrogen boosting roids.
    Good advise.

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    I have an irregular heart beat. It's not as disastrous as some make it out to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX View Post
    AAS and Heart issues, not a good mix. you should stay away from roids IMO, especially of estrogen boosting roids.
    I disagree to an extent. If you know how to control estrogen, get BW regulary, keep asprin, beta blockers and BP meds on hand, you can be fine. Now, if it is Afib, that is another story. But people who have hypertension, irregular beats, flutters, extra beats, etc. can all be controlled if knowledge of the condition is present. A proper diagnosis, and all can be fine.

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    When there first found this back in 2008 I saw a Cardiologist and they did a ultrasound on my heart and said there was no A-fib or anything at all. I just have a Bigeminy which is a extra heart beat, it doesnt happen all the time. Most of the times the Dr. cant even find it, I had to do all these tests because I was active duty military and they needed to clear me for deployment. So I did all the test wore a EKG for 24 hours, had numerous ekgs underload, like running and walking. Nothing seemed to trigger it, it just came and went on its own. So I was cleared and they never talk about it now, they said its normal most people have it and never notice. I mean I Crossfit and I think that is really intense and I never fell any different. Plus before Crossfit I was taking Redline a lot to stay awake on deployment and I felt my heart racing then but never anything out of control or any pain.

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    I have the exact same thing. No meds can really help the extra beats, nor should they. It is totally normal, and more people have it than is known, but alot of people just dont know they have it. I was very concerned, but mine is normal. There are instances that it isnt normal, and then management should be done. But as long as it isnt affecting your breathing, cardio, or lifestyle in general, you should be fine. Just keep it monitored if it does come back up.

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    OP.......Have you had any recent BW? Do you know your lipid panels, hemocrit (heck CBC), triglycerides?

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    I have not, I am going to have it done but I was think about waiting till closure to my cycle. Does it matter if I do it now or closure to my cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikingblood View Post
    I have not, I am going to have it done but I was think about waiting till closure to my cycle. Does it matter if I do it now or closure to my cycle?
    In my opinion, if it is even an option for you, I personally dont think you can have enough BW done. I would do it now and a month or 2 after. I am all for BW at least 2 times a year, or even more. Once a year is fine, but doing things like we do, I like to be a little more cautious than the normal person getting their yearly. Currently, due to a certain medication, I am getting BW done once a month. I normally get it checked 3-4 times a year.

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    ^^ Bloodwork isn't going to tell you anything about an arrhythmia. But an EKG will.

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    You know they can fix that. All they have to do is stop your heart (kill you) then re start it. lol

    One of my co workers had a arrhythmia due to being severely sick a while back and this is what they recommend he does eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikingblood View Post
    When there first found this back in 2008 I saw a Cardiologist and they did a ultrasound on my heart and said there was no A-fib or anything at all. I just have a Bigeminy which is a extra heart beat, it doesnt happen all the time. Most of the times the Dr. cant even find it, I had to do all these tests because I was active duty military and they needed to clear me for deployment. So I did all the test wore a EKG for 24 hours, had numerous ekgs underload, like running and walking. Nothing seemed to trigger it, it just came and went on its own. So I was cleared and they never talk about it now, they said its normal most people have it and never notice. I mean I Crossfit and I think that is really intense and I never fell any different. Plus before Crossfit I was taking Redline a lot to stay awake on deployment and I felt my heart racing then but never anything out of control or any pain.

    http://www.medicinenet.com/premature...ions/page4.htm
    I'm assuming you had ventricular bigeminy. As I'm sure you know bigeminy is a sporadic benign occurrence where there is a premature ventricular contraction alternating with a normal sinus beat. It occurs sporadically in most ppl and is of no consequence. When it is sustained it is considered abnormal but is not anything serious in the absence of other coronary or cardiovascular problems.

    There are medications that will suppress bigeminal beats but this is usually reserved for patients that have additional heart problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    ^^ Bloodwork isn't going to tell you anything about an arrhythmia. But an EKG will.
    I am not talking about checking for the arrhythmia. I am advising to get BW, and as I suspected, he needs it. I think if a person is going to get into AAS, and especially having paplitations(or any possible heart-related problems), BW should be first on the list. I am thinking of cholesterol and tryglycerides more than anything, as high LDL over long periods can lead to damaged or clogging of arteries and veins. That could lead to palpitations of irregularity on its own.

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    Doc you are riht that is exactly what it is, I think thats why they pay not attention to it.

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    could you explain statement "Bonaparte fixed me right up with advice that was superior than my cardiologist!". I had heart arrhythmia for afew years now and was wondering what helped you fixed yours?

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    This thread is 20 months old. He no longer posts here, and I don' recall exactly what advice he was referring to (I think it was NAC to cure his messed up liver enzymes). But sorry, I doubt that I possess the cure for cardiac arrhythmias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigManCanada View Post
    could you explain statement "Bonaparte fixed me right up with advice that was superior than my cardiologist!". I had heart arrhythmia for afew years now and was wondering what helped you fixed yours?
    Again, I appreciate your obvious cardiovascular concerns but PLEASE start a new thread as opposed to bumping these old ones. State YOUR specific concerns and questions. The last thread you bumped was 10 years old. This is for your benefit re responses etc. Thank You.

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