Natural Testosterone

**Marc_83** · 01-31-2013, 07:39 PM

Just out of curiousity...

Is it possible after finishing a cycle while taking HCG /AI during cycle and having a proper PCT with clomid and nolva that your natural test actually increases instead of decreasing (because of taking HCG, clomid and nolva).

**MickeyKnox** · 01-31-2013, 08:07 PM

There are no medical studies supporting that idea, that i know of. I've always understood that you will return to baseline..or less. But not more..

**tbjake34** · 01-31-2013, 08:45 PM

I believe it could be higher! I'm not saying it will stay higher permanently but it could possibly be higher during the end of post cycle and for a bit after. I kno for myself after I run torem for even a week my balls are huge lol sex drive is crazy high so I would like to think my test levels get elevated a bit above baseline from products like nolva, HCG , Clomid, torem ect.. I guess the only way to find out would be to get blood work a few weeks after pct! It'd be interesting to see

**RoadToHuge** · 01-31-2013, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by tbjake34

I believe it could be higher! I'm not saying it will stay higher permanently but it could possibly be higher during the end of post cycle and for a bit after. I kno for myself after I run torem for even a week my balls are huge lol sex drive is crazy high so I would like to think my test levels get elevated a bit above baseline from products like nolva, HCG, Clomid, torem ect.. I guess the only way to find out would be to get blood work a few weeks after pct! It'd be interesting to see

My last cycle I started at 320 test. After PCT, 479.

i have no idea how, it that's the labs...

**tbjake34** · 01-31-2013, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by RoadToHuge

My last cycle I started at 320 test. After PCT, 479.

i have no idea how, it that's the labs...

There ya go! That's good recovery bro how long after pct did u get labs done?

**kmms** · 01-31-2013, 09:02 PM

taking sun increases your test levels. jacking off increases your test levels. certain foods increase your test levels. alcohol reduces them, lack of sleep reduces levels etc.

a better question would be "what can i do (and avoid to do) during and after my pct to keep my test levels the same or higher?"

**kelkel** · 01-31-2013, 09:03 PM

Simple overstimulation during pct. Odds are it will return to it's normal over time. Remember that test levels vary due to many reasons such as lifestyle, nutrition and many other physiological factors. Even simply the time of day your BW was pulled....

**tbjake34** · 01-31-2013, 09:06 PM

I agree with the above two posts they will most likley go back to normal. The only thing I could maybe see would the added muscle mass from the cycle could cause higher test levels but nothing dramatic. I guess take some OTC test booster while ur off if u want to keep them elevated.

**Marc_83** · 02-01-2013, 11:09 AM

Thanks,

It makes a lot of sense in what you guys are saying

**MickeyKnox** · 02-01-2013, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by RoadToHuge

My last cycle I started at 320 test. After PCT, 479.

i have no idea how, it that's the labs...

Im willing to bet that your bloods were drawn in the am. My Test levels are double in the morning compared to what they are in the afternoon. Its best tyo have bloods in the am, noon and late afternoon. Then take the mean result for an accurate snapshot.

**RoadToHuge** · 02-01-2013, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

Im willing to bet that your bloods were drawn in the am. My Test levels are double in the morning compared to what they are in the afternoon. Its best tyo have bloods in the am, noon and late afternoon. Then take the mean result for an accurate snapshot.

the 320 was done at 8:30 am

479 was done at 11:15 (could not get in earlier.)

No ****in way I a getting bloods done 3 times in a day, eff that!@!

**MickeyKnox** · 02-01-2013, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by RoadToHuge

the 320 was done at 8:30 am

479 was done at 11:15 (could not get in earlier.)

No ****in way I a getting bloods done 3 times in a day, eff that!@!

Not 3 times in one day, 3 times over 3 days at various times..lol

Your bloods were likely still a bit high after PCT combined with the fat that your bloods were drawn in the am and IMHO produced increased values for Test.