New to PH Need help putting a cycle together and ready to rock!

**Bibb** · 02-03-2013, 10:17 PM

Okay guys need some help here. I am 234 lbs 6'1 been training 20 years been about 3 yrs since I cycled. Here is the gear I have and would appreciate advice putting these pieces together. My goal is size and cuts: Fortesta testosterone gel 10 mg per pump; Epi-strong; Tren75; Winn 50; Deca 200; Clen ; Forma Stanzol; Forged Post Cycle; Forged Liver support; Need2Slin; Furostan and SERMadex. Obviously i have a lot of different pieces here. How should I cycle these and what would be a good PCT.

**Lunk1** · 02-03-2013, 10:28 PM

You do realize the items from the banner above are legal steroid alternatives ? Not steroids !

**Granovich** · 02-03-2013, 10:38 PM

where are these names from!!!
i never heard of tren75 or winn50 or deca200... what is this!!!!
also that NTBM company " natural PCT " is all bullshit, i tried their 100$ HCGenerate and DAA and my lab work proved that it doesnt work AT ALL
but for the tren75 or winn50 or deca200 NO IDEA !!!

**songdog** · 02-03-2013, 11:09 PM

Follow the directions on the label bro.We have had some guys get good results with those.But your diet needs to be good.Good luck bro!

**lolfb** · 02-03-2013, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by Bibb

Okay guys need some help here. I am 234 lbs 6'1 been training 20 years been about 3 yrs since I cycled. Here is the gear I have and would appreciate advice putting these pieces together. My goal is size and cuts: Fortesta testosterone gel 10 mg per pump; Epi-strong; Tren75; Winn 50; Deca 200; Clen ; Forma Stanzol; Forged Post Cycle; Forged Liver support; Need2Slin; Furostan and SERMadex. Obviously i have a lot of different pieces here. How should I cycle these and what would be a good PCT.

Tren75, winn50, deca 200 are not steroids . They're herbals.

Forma stanzol is not really a steroid either. It's used as an AI.

Forged post cycle is useless as an actual PCT. Get a SERM.

need2slin, furostan and sermadex are also herbals.

The only steroid you have is fortesta and epi-strong.

I suggest disregarding all of those items except clen . Get test e, serm, ai and run an actual cycle.

**Granovich** · 02-03-2013, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by lolfb

Tren75, winn50, deca 200 are not steroids . They're herbals.

Forma stanzol is not really a steroid either. It's used as an AI.

Forged post cycle is useless as an actual PCT. Get a SERM.

need2slin, furostan and sermadex are also herbals.

The only steroid you have is fortesta and epi-strong.

I suggest disregarding all of those items except clen. Get test e, serm, ai and run an actual cycle.

even the clen he has isnt real!!!
after reading carefully i figured out that all those products are from the banner uptop ... all fake shit

**Bibb** · 02-06-2013, 06:20 AM

Thx for the guidance

**Rv8G30** · 02-06-2013, 07:30 AM

I know this is a sensitive subject but that banner is an outright scam. It prays on the people who are not edjucated on aas. I clicked through to look at it and Im dissappointed. The "tren " description mimics the real steroid . Same for clen . Its very obvious they are trying to trick people who dont know better. Nowhere did I see it say those arent real steroids . They pretty much come out and say they are steroids.

**Lunk1** · 02-06-2013, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by Rv8G30

I know this is a sensitive subject but that banner is an outright scam. It prays on the people who are not edjucated on aas. I clicked through to look at it and Im dissappointed. The "tren" description mimics the real steroid. Same for clen. Its very obvious they are trying to trick people who dont know better. Nowhere did I see it say those arent real steroids. They pretty much come out and say they are steroids.

It's called marketing...it's the buyers responsability to read the info! It clearly states they are a legal alternative. Are they to blame for all of the dumb aas kids who are desperate to find steroids ...so desperate that they will buy things without educating themselves?

**Rv8G30** · 02-06-2013, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

It's called marketing...it's the buyers responsability to read the info! It clearly states they are a legal alternative. Are they to blame for all of the dumb aas kids who are desperate to find steroids...so desperate that they will buy things without educating themselves?

Its not marketing. Its false advertisement. They take it too far imo.