2nd cycle need help

**gymrat365** · 02-04-2013, 12:44 PM

im 25 yrs 200lbs 5'10

history: i have done one cycle of test and deca 1year ago..i had realy good gains and kept alot of it as i was 155lbs when i started..i have been lifting hard for about 5yrs now..i want to start a new cycle for good lean mass...so im looking for some help from vets any help would be much appreciated..so here is what i want to do

week 1-10 test e250

week 1-10 tren e200

**gymrat365** · 02-04-2013, 12:46 PM

i want to run the test at 100mg a week and the tren at 300mg a week

**Granovich** · 02-04-2013, 01:00 PM

first of lay off the tren now
what are you trying to accomplish ? losing Bodyfat or gaining muscle or what ?
second thing is, how is your diet
3rd, do you have any PCT planned or AI, HCG routines ??
4th, what is your Bodyfat percentage ?
5th, did you do blood work to make sure you completely recovered after that deca /test E cycle ?

**gymrat365** · 02-04-2013, 01:09 PM

i am just wanting good lean mass..i have a good diet i just dont want to be bloated like the deca did thats why i was going with tren ..body fat around 16/18% i do have a pct plan but i havent bought anything yet just tring to plan a good cycle

**gymrat365** · 02-04-2013, 01:35 PM

what would u suggest for a good second cycle

**Novyman** · 02-04-2013, 01:39 PM

regardless run armidex at .25 every other day, that will cut back on the bloating...bump it up to .5 every other day if bloating is still an issue

**Granovich** · 02-04-2013, 03:59 PM

if diet is good you wouldnt have got to 16% ( which is probably 20%)
i was at that percentage and had shitty diet
if you want to cut get to 10-12% naturally then do a cycle... try testosterone propinate which calories around maintenance and you should be good
no need for tren

**gymrat365** · 02-05-2013, 06:45 PM

ok thanks for the advice..

**songdog** · 02-05-2013, 07:10 PM

You can post a pic and someone will help.And when you do get your bf down.Test only is all you need.Everyone thinks tren is a mircle drug.Sorry it doesnt work like that.You have to do your part also.Diet is key.

**MickeyKnox** · 02-09-2013, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by gymrat365

what would u suggest for a good second cycle

There's nothing wrong with doing a Test only cycle again. Perhaps you could increase it a bit if your first cycle was on the low side. OR, you could add an oral with your test.

Take a look in this thread for the Beginners Cycles With An Oral Kicker. You may find exactly what youre looking for..

**Most Common Beginners Cycles**

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJZv62fX_fs

**Granovich** · 02-09-2013, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

There's nothing wrong with doing a Test only cycle again. Perhaps you could increase it a bit if your first cycle was on the low side. OR, you could add an oral with your test.

Take a look in this thread for the Beginners Cycles With An Oral Kicker. You may find exactly what youre looking for..

**Most Common Beginners Cycles**

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJZv62fX_fs

Mickey did you see his BF % ?
he said its 18% ... do you think its safe to actually cycle at this BF
and also if his BF is 18 ( i would say its 20% atleast) then he cant get gains cuz apparently his diet sux... he needs to fix diet before AAS

**MickeyKnox** · 02-10-2013, 06:27 AM

Originally Posted by Granovich

Mickey did you see his BF % ?
he said its 18% ... do you think its safe to actually cycle at this BF
and also if his BF is 18 ( i would say its 20% atleast) then he cant get gains cuz apparently his diet sux... he needs to fix diet before AAS

For some reason i had 16% stuck in my head. But to answer your question, i would like to see 16% or less BF when beginning a cycle.

And yes diet is key to ANY cycle.