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    Post Pct/ gyno, etc

    Okay - where do i start?

    let me ask this first - other than gyno, what other side affects could using roids cause (that would develop female features)

    Here's the thing - i've been on Test for over a year..its hormone replacement therapy for me because i'm a transgender female to male. now with that said - i've recently began cycling. i'm on my 3rd cycle. I first upped my test on my first cycle. next i stacked test with tren . STUPID ****ING IDEA. tren is obviously TOO strong for a beginner, blah blah blah, i know, i just didnt know better and shouldve tested myself with less harder compounds..however even though i was at a VERY small dose, i still got good gains. now i'm on my 3rd cycle. I'm on test 500/ wk, 90 mg of dbol / day. I was recently told that i do NOT need to bother with PCT. 1- i dont have normal levels of bio male, so my levels are all weird or hard to make out. 2- i cannot get gyno because when i had top surgery (my breasts removed), my surgeon removed my milk ducts. it still all seems to unbelievable to me, but i'm still making my myself go through pct after all my cycles.and as i go through my PCT, jump back on my original dose of test. can someone please verify that is true, or BS?
    anyway. i'm on my 2nd week of this cycle and my body is doing wonderful so far. I work out 4, sometimes 5 days a week. i'm an extremely great and healthy eater + a few suppliments and of course, my milk thistle, fish oil, multi-vitamins, and always keeping myself oil free ...as possible.(by that i mean hot hot showers) anyway, sorry for the rambling but i thought i'd give a little background.

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    Pics? Lol, jk. Just keep with your doctors orders until you are 100% official. Test only is always great.

    But for your question, female features are really the least of worries from AAS use. Lipids and bp issues top the list for me.

    So I would only stick to your drs orders for the time being. Good luck!

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    yup. no need pct.

    just to be sure, your ovaries are gone too? cos pct will be stimulating your ovaries, not HPTA.

    what is your trt dose currently? i would imagine that your cycle doses should be lower than usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AD View Post
    yup. no need pct.

    just to be sure, your ovaries are gone too? cos pct will be stimulating your ovaries, not HPTA.

    what is your trt dose currently? i would imagine that your cycle doses should be lower than usual.
    I didn't catch that either about the ovaries. Couldn't really help because I was unsure if everything was official yet. I think just the breasts have been removed.

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    when i started HRT it was 150/wk and then throughout each cycle i bumped it up. now im 500mg/wk. i wont ever go over this dose. its not ever going to be necessary.

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    no, ovaries will be removed before the end of the year. but after that, i plan do go down on test because my e levels will obviously be lowered after surgery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocks_off27 View Post
    no, ovaries will be removed before the end of the year. but after that, i plan do go down on test because my e levels will obviously be lowered after surgery.
    I would stick to drs orders. That much test is unnecessary for you at this point, as it could lead to a whole host of more severe sides in your current state. 150mgs weekly is higher than I've heard of for this procedure at the point you are at, so you might be lucky there. Just keep it low until the deal is done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocks_off27 View Post
    no, ovaries will be removed before the end of the year. but after that, i plan do go down on test because my e levels will obviously be lowered after surgery.
    Who is test? Is he a member here?

    Just wanted to say good luck with your transformation RO. Lots of valuable info here to help through your transition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocks_off27 View Post
    when i started HRT it was 150/wk and then throughout each cycle i bumped it up. now im 500mg/wk. i wont ever go over this dose. its not ever going to be necessary.
    how long have you been on 150mg/wk? this is prescribed by your doc?

    i'm not sure, but i think it may be a little high. men on TRT may need that dose, but transgender men are used to having zero(or close to zero) test in their system. so when you start the HRT program, i assume you should need a much lower dose. i know of people in your situation using only Sustanon 250mg/month! but anyway, if the dose is prescribed, and you're under the care of a doc, then you should be safe...

    anyway, to answer your question: no need pct. you can go back to your usual dose of test after each cycle/blast. with your ovaries still intact, pct will be stimulating them, and if you're doing 4wks of pct, i hope you're not growing any giant ovarian cysts without knowing!

    and depending on how thorough your "top" surgery was, your risk of getting gyno should be low. your breast tissues are used to having high levels of estro. the low amount from aromatisation should not bother you much. but if you want to be extra safe, look into using an AI on your next blast.

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    i've been on 150mg/wk for almost a year and half yeah that what was my prescription started out as....even pre-op to post op. thanks so much for the info. i'm sure i'll have more questions regarding best cycle timing for the test and dbol cause everyone is different and everyone thinks one amount and timing is different (and everyone thinks they are right haha). thanks buddy.

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    hahaha. thank you buddy. and yes indeed. i've been following this site for a few years and decided to finally speak up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocks_off27 View Post
    i've been on 150mg/wk for almost a year and half yeah that what was my prescription started out as....even pre-op to post op. thanks so much for the info. i'm sure i'll have more questions regarding best cycle timing for the test and dbol cause everyone is different and everyone thinks one amount and timing is different (and everyone thinks they are right haha). thanks buddy.
    Just be patient and let everything get worked out first before thinking of other compounds. 150mgs weekly is really high for you now, so you should do really well with this. Like AD said, most are much lower. I personally know someone who went all the way, and their pre-op dose was 70mgs of test c every 10days. Post op they are at the exact dose. But get all of your hormones adjusted and let them be "normalized" before even considering dbol or anything else first. You need to be fully adjusted to these new hormones before you start manipulating them with larger doses or different compounds. Youll do very good being patient and letting everything get in order. Remember that estrogen related sides are the least important. Let me rephrase that. Gyno, bloat, and acne are the least important when you consider cholesterol, bp, and rbc among others. Good luck buddy!

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    apparently i had low t levels from the begining. i know some other transmen who have to take 25mg every ten days and others who take 200 mg/ wk. i jumped up from my prescribed begining dose (150mg/wk) back in august after a year and a half being on that. got little muslce gain and obviously went through "male puberty" and everything became steady after 6 months. i've been training and eating well eating well now for 4 years. im just getting that little boost right now for a hawaii trip in a couple months and summer. this usage isnt going to be for more than 2 years. thanks for the advice guys.

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    I've never heard of women becoming men, I thought it was always the other way around. Well regardless, welcome aboard!
    Curious, can you get equipped with male parts that actually work ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cj111 View Post
    I've never heard of women becoming men, I thought it was always the other way around. Well regardless, welcome aboard!
    Curious, can you get equipped with male parts that actually work ?
    see a doctor for proper advice

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    see a doctor for proper advice
    Cool Ill try that. Is that what you did ?

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    ask a doctor, or google. that can sometimes be a little invasive questions. besides...this is a steroid forum..not a genitalia forum

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