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    Anavar for healing and joints?

    Hey guys, newbie looking to start an anavar only cycle. I know I know... "dont do it, its not worth it"

    There's a reason why Im doing an anavar. Not everyone on here will understand as Im doing this for a medical condition. But Im here for advice from people that have experience with AAS

    I was a very active person, trained 4-5 times a week doing interval training, cardio, and some weight lifting as well as squash and swiming. Until one day I sustained a grade 5 shoulder separation. Had surgery which was done incorrectly and became limited with my shoulder. Revision surgery was required. I was doing a masters degree and decided to wait a few months. During this time I was in pain and discomfort, and was depressed. Just as I finished the term, I started to feel pain in the other shoulder as well and general cracking in many joints. Was diagnossed with impingment in 'good shoulder' which kept getting worse. After the revision surgery the cracking got worse and I started getting pain in my hip and knee and wrists. My joints were streching too much and would crack and pop all the time. Fatigue, blurred vision and other symptoms. Ran every possible test and met with a dosen doctors. none could give me a diagnoses except for a severe vitamin D defiency. Months later I feel much better but unfortunatley the shoulder is not working and might need to do another surgery to fix it (avoiding) All of my joints are weak and both shoulders painful and weak. Its been 15 months since the injury and ive lost all my mucsle. gained fat.

    My doc has prescribed me GH omnitrope and testogel. I have started using the omnitrope but feel I the testogel wount do much for me. I need something that will strengthen connective tissue and tissue that has been damaged.

    My goal is not to look good or lift crazy weights. I just want to get to a normal level of function or near that. Surgery is a no no for now on both shoulders. I feel anavar could do good things for me. But I don't know how to tell if its legit as my doc wont prescribe it. Im thinking about going to Turkey or Egypt to get some even though travelling is a mission. I just want to get back to my normal life.

    what do you guys think? or should I just stick with the testogel? Hes prescribed arimidex aswell. Do I need PCT for testogel or anavar?

    Any feedback is much appreciated.
    thanks

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    anyone???

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    Sorry this thread got missed.

    Var will do nothing for your shoulder situation. This may be something you can consider TB500 for.

    What are your stats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Sorry this thread got missed.

    Var will do nothing for your shoulder situation. This may be something you can consider TB500 for.

    What are your stats?

    TB500? will look into that.

    sorry forgot stats. 30yr old male 5'11, 90kg, 200 pounds, 25% body fat. about 15 months ago before injury was 165pound 12% body fat.

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Sorry this thread got missed.

    Var will do nothing for your shoulder situation. This may be something you can consider TB500 for.

    What are your stats?
    You don't think anavar could help build some muscle on shoulders and also strengthen ligaments and tendons. As well as strengthen joints generally in the whole body and perhaps give me more energy to train more.

    thanks for your feedback

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    [QUOTE=Times Roman;6415879]Read my TB500 log...........


    I remember coming across this a while back. Have you felt significant improvement? thanks

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    Welcome greengo. I would consider tb500 as well based on Times Romans log. Anavar can actually make tendon pain worsen due to it being a "drying" compound. A lot of guys cant use winstrol because if this. Joint pain is a common side effect that winstrol can cause, and even though winstrol isn't anavar, the mechanism of action is much alike.

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    Question are you currently training. As you mention nothing about rehab and exercise to improve your weeakened condition. The growth hormone that you are already taking will help but without a proper rehab program anything you take is pointless

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    Quote Originally Posted by warmouth;6415***
    Welcome greengo. I would consider tb500 as well based on Times Romans log. Anavar can actually make tendon pain worsen due to it being a "drying" compound. A lot of guys cant use winstrol because if this. Joint pain is a common side effect that winstrol can cause, and even though winstrol isn't anavar, the mechanism of action is much alike.
    Hi. thanks.
    I never looked at it like that. They are similar in that they are good as cutting agents. But I have read several posts of people going on about how var is good for their joints. Im also looking at it as an all round strength improver. I've read up a bit on TB500 and looking into it as an option. Just seems a lot of injections for small improvement and also an experimental one.

    What about testogel? anyone recommend this? Is it too much risk? can such a small amount of testosterone be harmful to sex hormones? could it cause testicular shrinkage even with armimedex? My doc tells me its good for everything including joints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fit2bOld View Post
    Question are you currently training. As you mention nothing about rehab and exercise to improve your weeakened condition. The growth hormone that you are already taking will help but without a proper rehab program anything you take is pointless
    Yes I should have mentioned, Ive been doing physio for some time now with little improvement. I am also meeting with a physio therapist next week to start a specialized rehab and physical therapy program. This is why I am looking for something to help give me a boost while rehabing. I also do light exercises for shoulder and looking to get an exercise bike for home.

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    I should also mention that I've done some PRP therapy with good results and will possibly continue this on shoulders soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greengo View Post

    Hi. thanks.
    I never looked at it like that. They are similar in that they are good as cutting agents. But I have read several posts of people going on about how var is good for their joints. Im also looking at it as an all round strength improver. I've read up a bit on TB500 and looking into it as an option. Just seems a lot of injections for small improvement and also an experimental one.

    What about testogel? anyone recommend this? Is it too much risk? can such a small amount of testosterone be harmful to sex hormones? could it cause testicular shrinkage even with armimedex? My doc tells me its good for everything including joints.
    Unless it is for trt, test gel is usless for cycling. It would cost a fortune if it were feasible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warmouth View Post
    Unless it is for trt, test gel is usless for cycling. It would cost a fortune if it were feasible.
    My test levels were in the high range

    Testosterone 7089 pg/mL 3000-10000
    Testosteron free + 284 pg/mL 50-280

    Estradiol + 45 ng/L <30
    Estrone + 63 pg/mL 10-60

    TSH was only slightly higher than range

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    I had a bicep tendon tear and rotator cuff injury. Receive a cortizone shot in my shoulder and took Anavar 50mg Ed for four weeks. Received a Rx from my HRT doctor. Did physical therapy. Started recovering in two weeks. By four weeks was gtg. My PT said my deck dry was the fastest he ever saw and I was his first patient who took Anavar to speed up recovery. It worked well for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by testluva View Post
    I had a bicep tendon tear and rotator cuff injury. Receive a cortizone shot in my shoulder and took Anavar 50mg Ed for four weeks. Received a Rx from my HRT doctor. Did physical therapy. Started recovering in two weeks. By four weeks was gtg. My PT said my deck dry was the fastest he ever saw and I was his first patient who took Anavar to speed up recovery. It worked well for me.
    thats great. good to know. kinda hoping for a similar effect myself. Only problem is Im based in UK and HRT ain't as straight forward as US. and especially var no one will prescribe that here. its a big no no to use anything for recovery. :S
    Thinking of going to Turkey or even seeing a specialist somewhere in europe.

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by testluva
    I had a bicep tendon tear and rotator cuff injury. Receive a cortizone shot in my shoulder and took Anavar 50mg Ed for four weeks. Received a Rx from my HRT doctor. Did physical therapy. Started recovering in two weeks. By four weeks was gtg. My PT said my deck dry was the fastest he ever saw and I was his first patient who took Anavar to speed up recovery. It worked well for me.
    This is similar to my situation only it's a shoulder injury due to auto accident. Physical therapy wasn't progressing things along so doctor prescribed anavar and cortisone shot. Cortisone has removed all pain and inflammation and brought mobility back to a large degree. Unfortunately I think the shot is starting to wear off as I feel soreness during certain motions. It is certainly better. Perhaps as much as 90% better, but still there are lingering issues.

    Anavar is commonly prescribed for aid in healing from injuries, surgical procedures, burn victims, etc. I do not believe anavar will be a negative on any level in healing. My issue is actually a tendon and muscle damage issue. So despite having tendon damage, I am still prescribed anavar to assist with building the small muscles that make your ball/socket joint of the shoulder function properly.

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    Anybody had success getting a prescription in the UK ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by warmouth View Post
    Welcome greengo. I would consider tb500 as well based on Times Romans log. Anavar can actually make tendon pain worsen due to it being a "drying" compound. A lot of guys cant use winstrol because if this. Joint pain is a common side effect that winstrol can cause, and even though winstrol isn't anavar, the mechanism of action is much alike.
    I know this forum is dated but I had to add my 2 cents... "Drying compound"? Please elaborate where you've researched and read such information. Does anyone do their own research on supplements?? Try it you'll be amazed at the information you can find. Anavar (oxandrolone) was designed for burn victims. How do I know this? I RESEARCHED. Never have I ever read anything (besides uneducated forum posts) about a "drying compound" related to anavar. Oh and btw Anavar and Winstrol may provide some similar results. But, they are working much differently within your body. If you have nothing informative to add to the thread please DON'T POST. So, DEPENDING on the shoulder issue it could provide some healing. It all depends on the severity of the injury.

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    Thread is over 2 years old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geneticfreak247 View Post
    I know this forum is dated but I had to add my 2 cents... "Drying compound"? Please elaborate where you've researched and read such information. Does anyone do their own research on supplements?? Try it you'll be amazed at the information you can find. Anavar (oxandrolone) was designed for burn victims. How do I know this? I RESEARCHED. Never have I ever read anything (besides uneducated forum posts) about a "drying compound" related to anavar. Oh and btw Anavar and Winstrol may provide some similar results. But, they are working much differently within your body. If you have nothing informative to add to the thread please DON'T POST. So, DEPENDING on the shoulder issue it could provide some healing. It all depends on the severity of the injury.
    You just bumped a 3yr old thread to argue?!?! agreed you've made some good points.... Just check the tread date next time

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdil511 View Post
    Thread is over 2 years old.
    Damn you beat me to it! Lol

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    He did mention that the forum is dated (i think he meant thread)
    But it is a bit stupid continuing a debate 3 years on, i doubt anyone who originaly posted is even still active

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