ED while on cycle

**1wheelr1** · 02-26-2013, 07:53 AM

I'm 29 6'2" 215
Currently on week 6 of 12. Running tren 75 eod test-e 500 ew next week I start Winnie 50mg ed and I'll be switching over to test-p 100 eod.
This is the second time I've run tren and test. Last time I had some ED after my cycle but it didn't last to long. This time I'm experiencing it in the middle of my cycle.
I've noticed that I have some testicular atrophy I have HCG on the way.

My question is, do you think this ED is caused by the tren or a hormone imbalance due to the need of HCG?

**Tron3219** · 02-26-2013, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by 1wheelr1

I'm 29 6'2" 215
Currently on week 6 of 12. Running tren 75 eod test-e 500 ew next week I start Winnie 50mg ed and I'll be switching over to test-p 100 eod.
This is the second time I've run tren and test. Last time I had some ED after my cycle didn't last to long tho, this time I'm experiencing it in the middle of my cycle.

U need to get some bw done, but it's prolly an e2 or prolactin issue. R u using an ai? Caber/prami on hand?

-TroN-

**1wheelr1** · 02-26-2013, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by Tron3219

U need to get some bw done, but it's prolly an e2 or prolactin issue. R u using an ai? Caber/prami on hand?

-TroN-

Was editing the post, reread. I'm running arimidex .75 eod

**Fllifter** · 02-26-2013, 08:02 AM

Are you using an Ai, hcg , and something like caber or parmi ?

**1wheelr1** · 02-26-2013, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by Fllifter

Are you using an Ai, hcg , and something like caber or parmi ?

I was editing the post bro more info now... I'm running arimidex .75 eod.

**Tron3219** · 02-26-2013, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by 1wheelr1

I was editing the post bro more info now... I'm running arimidex .75 eod.

That's pretty high...I'm running 1000mg test and only using .5 eod...bet u crashed ur e2

-TroN-

**1wheelr1** · 02-26-2013, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by Tron3219

That's pretty high...I'm running 1000mg test and only using .5 eod...bet u crashed ur e2

-TroN-

Anything lower and my tits start to hurt.

**1wheelr1** · 02-26-2013, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by Tron3219

That's pretty high...I'm running 1000mg test and only using .5 eod...bet u crashed ur e2

-TroN-

Thx bro, think I should lower my AI and just use nolva if necessary?

**Tron3219** · 02-26-2013, 08:13 AM

U need to get some bw and adjust ur ai

-TroN-

**AnabolicDoc** · 02-26-2013, 08:28 AM

As Tron suggested, have u tried adding caber/prami/bromo? It may be an elevated prolactin issue and/or crashed estrogen (as Tron also said). Maybe starting one of these three will allow you to lower your AI dosage bc it seems like a high dose of arimidex for the amount of test you're taking. I'm wondering if you're getting breast soreness when you drop the AI dose bc of elevated prolactin levels.

**1wheelr1** · 02-26-2013, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by AnabolicDoc

As Tron suggested, have u tried adding caber/prami/bromo? It may be an elevated prolactin issue and/or crashed estrogen (as Tron also said). Maybe starting one of these three will allow you to lower your AI dosage bc it seems like a high dose of arimidex for the amount of test you're taking. I'm wondering if you're getting breast soreness when you drop the AI dose bc of elevated prolactin levels.

I've tryed caber b4 but don't like all the side effect that can come along with it.
Think I should just try lowering the AI for now? Maybe .5?

**evander87** · 02-26-2013, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by 1wheelr1

I've tryed caber b4 but don't like all the side effect that can come along with it.

Can you elaborate? Everything I've heard about caber has been good.

**1wheelr1** · 02-26-2013, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by evander87

Can you elaborate? Everything I've heard about caber has been good.

I personally just felt very odd on it, like mentally not with it.

**Tron3219** · 02-26-2013, 08:50 AM

Bw!

-TroN-

**1wheelr1** · 02-26-2013, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by Tron3219

Bw!

-TroN-

What should I have checked out as far as BW?

**fit2bOld** · 02-26-2013, 09:00 AM

Id go for the blood work anything else is guessing.

**MickeyKnox** · 02-26-2013, 09:57 AM

This is a list of the major hormones to get tested. I have a comprehensive list too, buy these are some of the major players..

1) Major hormones to be tested:

Testosterone (Total, Free, and Bioavailable)
LH/FSH
DHEA/DHEAS
Estradiol (Sensitive Assay)
IGF -1
Prolactin
Free Androgen Index

**Tron3219** · 02-26-2013, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

This is a list of the major hormones to get tested. I have a comprehensive list too, buy these are some of the major players..

1) Major hormones to be tested:

Testosterone (Total, Free, and Bioavailable)
LH/FSH
DHEA/DHEAS
Estradiol (Sensitive Assay)
IGF -1
Prolactin
Free Androgen Index

MK to the rescue lol

-TroN-

**1wheelr1** · 02-26-2013, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

This is a list of the major hormones to get tested. I have a comprehensive list too, buy these are some of the major players..

1) Major hormones to be tested:

Testosterone (Total, Free, and Bioavailable)
LH/FSH
DHEA/DHEAS
Estradiol (Sensitive Assay)
IGF -1
Prolactin
Free Androgen Index

Thank you sir!!

**largerthannormal** · 02-26-2013, 10:55 AM

just for personal data, is your tren ace or E?

**1wheelr1** · 02-26-2013, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by largerthannormal

just for personal data, is your tren ace or E?

Ace bro

**redz** · 02-26-2013, 10:59 AM

've tryed caber b4 but don't like all the side effect that can come along with it.
Think I should just try lowering the AI for now? Maybe .5?

Worse than ED?

I have never had a single negative effect from caber only positive side effects ever.

**Tron3219** · 02-26-2013, 11:06 AM

I've never had a side effect worse then ed! Ed is like the worst thing that could happen to a man besides castration lol

-TroN-

**1wheelr1** · 02-26-2013, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by Tron3219

I've never had a side effect worse then ed! Ed is like the worst thing that could happen to a man besides castration lol

-TroN-

Ok... Point taken lol! Maybe I'll grab some.

**MickeyKnox** · 02-26-2013, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by redz

Worse than ED?

I have never had a single negative effect from caber only positive side effects ever.

Agreed.

In fact, before Viagra and Cialis became the rage, im almost positive that the old male porn stars of yesteryear relied on Cabergoline for sustained erections.

**1wheelr1** · 02-27-2013, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by Tron3219

I've never had a side effect worse then ed! Ed is like the worst thing that could happen to a man besides castration lol

-TroN-

Sorry bro..let me clarify. I've taken primi not caber, but primi is just the genetic version right?

**evander87** · 02-27-2013, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by 1wheelr1

Sorry bro..let me clarify. I've taken primi not caber, but primi is just the genetic version right?

Nope two totally different compounds. So you took prami and NOT caber? Like I said I've never heard a bad side from caber but I have from prami.

**1wheelr1** · 02-27-2013, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by evander87

Nope two totally different compounds. So you took prami and NOT caber? Like I said I've never heard a bad side from caber but I have from prami.

Ok, well I have some primi on the way, I'd get some caber if I had any idea where to get some.
What dose of prime should I start out with?

**MickeyKnox** · 02-27-2013, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by 1wheelr1

Ok, well I have some primi on the way, I'd get some caber if I had any idea where to get some.
What dose of prime should I start out with?

.25mg ED and take it at night before bed. Unless you've used it before and know that it doesn't give you any jimmies.

**Jonnyg419** · 02-26-2013, 08:44 PM

not to jack the thread, but while we are on the subject, isn't there a peptide as well that can increase libido and erections?

**The Titan99** · 02-26-2013, 08:51 PM

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**The Titan99** · 02-26-2013, 08:55 PM

I've never had a negative side from caber either. I usually run .5 twice a week all the time.

Now Prami...that stuff REALLY SUCKS!!! Jimmyinkedup likes it though. He says it's not so bad if you start low and ramp it up. For me it doesn't do much good to have a hard on if you feel like you've got malaria...lol!

**1wheelr1** · 02-27-2013, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by The Titan99

I've never had a negative side from caber either. I usually run .5 twice a week all the time.

Now Prami...that stuff REALLY SUCKS!!! Jimmyinkedup likes it though. He says it's not so bad if you start low and ramp it up. For me it doesn't do much good to have a hard on if you feel like you've got malaria...lol!

Prami is just the generic version of caber? No? I don't know where to get caber only prami, so what dosage should I start with.
I'm gonna order some prami in the mean time until I get my BW.

**MickeyKnox** · 02-27-2013, 12:49 PM

Jimmies is just my way of describing anything that gives you the fits or make you sick.

Btw, you indicated in post #30 that you've taken Prami before. If so, what was your protocol and for what? - amount of 19nor?

**Tron3219** · 02-27-2013, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

Jimmies is just my way of describing anything that gives you the fits or make you sick.

Btw, you indicated in post #30 that you've taken Prami before. If so, what was your protocol and for what? - amount of 19nor?

Similar to the hebejebes? Hmm?

-TroN-

**MickeyKnox** · 02-27-2013, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Tron3219

Similar to the hebejebes? Hmm?

-TroN-

^^ Exactly! lol

**1wheelr1** · 02-27-2013, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

Jimmies is just my way of describing anything that gives you the fits or make you sick.

Btw, you indicated in post #30 that you've taken Prami before. If so, what was your protocol and for what? - amount of 19nor?

Yea I did take it b4 and took .25ed but wanted to see if what you said coincided with what I already knew.
I took it last time post cycle for lack of sex drive. The cycle I'd been running was 150mg tren eod and 1000mg test-e ew.

**MickeyKnox** · 02-27-2013, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by 1wheelr1

Yea I did take it b4 and took .25ed but wanted to see if what you said coincided with what I already knew.
I took it last time post cycle for lack of sex drive. The cycle I'd been running was 150mg tren eod and 1000mg test-e ew.

Ok, you should be gtg.