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03-05-2013, 06:47 PM #1
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Ethyl oleate (EO) allergy painful injection
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Has anyone ever had an allergic reaction to EO? If so, can your body build resistance? I'm getting pip so bad I can't bend my legs for a week. It's not bunk gear. I had a buddy that's on cycle stop by my house and pin himself with it. He had no reaction. I plan on fighting through it. I was just hoping that someone has overcome this before and wants to share some wisdom.
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03-05-2013, 06:53 PM #2
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Originally Posted by that guy1234
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03-05-2013, 06:54 PM #3
Originally Posted by that guy1234
I've shot 1ml eo before and nothing
It's only a fatty acid but you may be allergic
What gear is it your talking about and how do you know it contains eo?
Or did you brew it yourself with eo?
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03-05-2013, 07:05 PM #4
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It is bio prop 100 tren ace 100. It is the EO causing the pain. It's swelling and hurts very bad. Panntastic, not everyone is allergic to EO. Most people inject it smooth as butter.
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03-05-2013, 07:08 PM #5
Originally Posted by that guy1234
And why they used eo for prop and ace @ 100mg/ml I will never know seems expensive waste.
If the swelling continues you will want to get to a doc
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03-05-2013, 07:30 PM #6
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It goes away after about a week. It just sucks for rotating sites.
I'm hoping that someone that has experienced this chimes in. I just took Benadryl to see if it helps. Pinning every other day and everywhere is sore.
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03-05-2013, 07:32 PM #7
Simple change gear....
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03-05-2013, 07:38 PM #8
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Bio Tech gear kills me. Well, all of their short esters. That is, if its bio tech you are talking about. It is all ive used, and the stuff is so good that I just deal with the pain. Sometimes it takes 2 or 3 days, but maybe I'm a little tougher when it comes to pain. I just deal with it.
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03-05-2013, 08:26 PM #9
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I've used Bio multiple times all from same source. Yes it is biotech, I love it. Tren is amazing. I'm walking with a body temp of 99.5, sweating like a pig, out of breath after 30 sec of cardio, and I have a kickstand every second of the day.
Again I love bio but this is the worst pip I've ever had.
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Do you have similar issues after a night of large quantities of drinking EtOH? There is a similar product of EtOH metabolism and EO... that my help point it to the EO in the AAS and not something else
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03-05-2013, 08:47 PM #11
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Nice. I'm only allergic to 1 thing... Liquor. That might explain it. Do you have anymore info on that? I'm gonna start googling now.
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http://www.pnas.org/content/79/13/3954.full.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethyl_oleate
"Ethyl oleate is one of the fatty acid ethyl esters (FAEE) that is formed in the body after ingestion of ethanol." (the info cited from wiki is from the article in the first link)
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03-05-2013, 08:51 PM #13
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Thanks.
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03-05-2013, 09:11 PM #14
So nobody is going to comment on the fact gear has benzyl ALCOHOL in it?
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Yea it does.. but it doesnt ever cross paths with ethanol in its metabolism.
and with the symptoms discribed ( friend has it, no issues: he cant bend leg) *unless u wanna debate the point that its still in diff vials so could be diff... but then that would infer that its not sterile...
and BA burns, but shouldnt have the reaction described.
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03-06-2013, 03:22 AM #16
Unless the op knows for sure he is allergic to ethyl oleate it can't be solely attributed to this.
He hasn't mentioned the ethyl oleate % as a carrier
He also hasn't mentioned the ba percentage as a solvent.
He never never mentioned pain in the intestinal area but at the injection spot.
I'm sure it would react differently via Im injection than it would being ingested.
2 other people have also stated pip from this ugl and the products they sell aswell so I'm assuming we haven't got 3 people all allergic to EO.
The fact his friend can use it and feel no pain is of no relevance due to all the different factors Involved:
Different batch
Ba content
Tolerance to high ba
Injection technique
Just my thoughts
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03-06-2013, 04:52 AM #17
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Per my first post, my friend stopped by my house and pinned himself with my product from my vial.
I've googled this numerous times and all I can come up with is EO allergies. As lemonada8 stated, it shares properties with liqueur and I'm definitely allergic to that. I was just hoping that someone here had experienced this and had advice wether to push through it or not. I'm about to pin and go workout. Ill let you know how that goes.
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03-06-2013, 04:57 AM #18
Originally Posted by that guy1234
Switch brands if I were you
Are you sure there is eo in your vial?
Can you post a pic?
I just find it hard to believe myself as you are showing common signs of pip like the rest of the contributors to this thread. Who also mentioned it was painful home brew
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03-06-2013, 07:51 AM #19
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Panntastic. I know what pip feels like. I'm thirty years old and have done a few cycles. I have not given any side effects I'm having, therefore it would not be correct for you to say I'm "showing common signs of pip".
My cycle is like this. Test cyp and deca for 12 weeks(ended jan 1st) lowered test dose to 250 wk cruise until Monday feb 18. Then I shot 1cc tren , 1cc prop. I'm going eod.
My symtoms are as follows:
Flu like symptoms
Tired/loss of energy motivation
Mild heat about 2-3 inches below injection site
Mild swelling about 2-3 inches below injection site
Serious pain in muscles injected
Loss of flexibility in injected muscles
None of these symptoms came until Feb 18 when I pinned prop and tren. I'm very aware I could switch. I'm playing through the pain. I'm not a *****. The simple reason I posted this is to get information from someone who might also be allergic to EO and if your body can build an immunity if I keep introducing it.
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03-06-2013, 11:27 AM #20
Originally Posted by that guy1234
Your describing common everyday pip nothing else.
You've been told by many others that this brand is painful as well
I've been brewing myself for 5+ years and never heard or seen an allergic reaction to eo
All your problems to me are indications of high benzyl alcohol
The fact you say your allergic to eo and want to keep using it is bewildering to me.
Does the label state there is eo in the vial?
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03-06-2013, 12:09 PM #21
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It doesnt. Ill try to post a pic if the site allows me this evening. Test c is almost clear. Test p is medium yellow. Deca is clear. Tren is dark.
The pip from it effects everyone I know. 5 others I know personally experience this as well. It is really bad, mostly from the prop. Deca and C arent too bad, but it is there. It not bad at all from injection till bedtime. But the next day, whew. Its rough.
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03-06-2013, 12:16 PM #22
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03-06-2013, 01:49 PM #23
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I don't know brewer. Lable does not state eo. I get it from the only source for biotech pharmaclinico. I don't know if it contains EO or not, but I know the symptoms listed above aren't pip.
Pann, google ethyl oleate allergy. It's real.
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03-06-2013, 01:50 PM #24
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03-06-2013, 02:05 PM #25
Originally Posted by that guy1234
All scientific studies are on reactions when ingested not injected.
I just don't believe any ugl would use it in their brewing as its a pricy chem and from all the other comments on this post have said its really painful gear anyway.
I honestly think its pip due to excess alcohol levels nothing else
Try adding some filtered oil to it and cutting the concentration of it down a bit
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03-06-2013, 02:50 PM #26
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Thanks for the advice. Ill leave the cyp out fri morning and use a cc of cottonseed oil. I have 30cc of that.
Is it possible that its crystallizing in my muscles? I usually work out that body part after, but not always with going eod.
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03-06-2013, 03:03 PM #27
Originally Posted by that guy1234
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03-06-2013, 07:46 PM #28
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03-06-2013, 08:33 PM #29
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Allergy to EO seems unlikely...
There are a lot of contaminents that can be present in gear, wich would be more likely to cause an intolerence (ex heavy metals).
As it's been said, change gear.
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