Results 1 to 29 of 29
  1. #1
    that guy1234 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Posts
    118

    Ethyl oleate (EO) allergy painful injection

    Sup everyone?

    Has anyone ever had an allergic reaction to EO? If so, can your body build resistance? I'm getting pip so bad I can't bend my legs for a week. It's not bunk gear. I had a buddy that's on cycle stop by my house and pin himself with it. He had no reaction. I plan on fighting through it. I was just hoping that someone has overcome this before and wants to share some wisdom.

  2. #2
    swm1972 is offline Knowledgeable Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    807
    Quote Originally Posted by that guy1234
    Sup everyone?

    Has anyone ever had an allergic reaction to EO? If so, can your body build resistance? I'm getting pip so bad I can't bend my legs for a week. It's not bunk gear. I had a buddy that's on cycle stop by my house and pin himself with it. He had no reaction. I plan on fighting through it. I was just hoping that someone has overcome this before and wants to share some wisdom.
    What's the gear? What hormone and at what concentration? I've had primo 200 in EO that still caused PIP. I've had the same with 150mg/ml test prop. I've not experienced pain I've ever associated with EO. But higher concentration gear can sometimes hurt.

  3. #3
    panntastic's Avatar
    panntastic is offline "cool as shit and knows his stuff"
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Blighty
    Posts
    4,456
    Quote Originally Posted by that guy1234
    Sup everyone?

    Has anyone ever had an allergic reaction to EO? If so, can your body build resistance? I'm getting pip so bad I can't bend my legs for a week. It's not bunk gear. I had a buddy that's on cycle stop by my house and pin himself with it. He had no reaction. I plan on fighting through it. I was just hoping that someone has overcome this before and wants to share some wisdom.
    You sure it's eo and not ba your reacting to?
    I've shot 1ml eo before and nothing
    It's only a fatty acid but you may be allergic
    What gear is it your talking about and how do you know it contains eo?
    Or did you brew it yourself with eo?

  4. #4
    that guy1234 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Posts
    118
    It is bio prop 100 tren ace 100. It is the EO causing the pain. It's swelling and hurts very bad. Panntastic, not everyone is allergic to EO. Most people inject it smooth as butter.

  5. #5
    panntastic's Avatar
    panntastic is offline "cool as shit and knows his stuff"
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Blighty
    Posts
    4,456
    Quote Originally Posted by that guy1234
    It is bio prop 100 tren ace 100. It is the EO causing the pain. It's swelling and hurts very bad. Panntastic, not everyone is allergic to EO. Most people inject it smooth as butter.
    If you feel your allergic the only common sense answer would be to get different gear.
    And why they used eo for prop and ace @ 100mg/ml I will never know seems expensive waste.
    If the swelling continues you will want to get to a doc

  6. #6
    that guy1234 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Posts
    118
    It goes away after about a week. It just sucks for rotating sites.

    I'm hoping that someone that has experienced this chimes in. I just took Benadryl to see if it helps. Pinning every other day and everywhere is sore.

  7. #7
    redz's Avatar
    redz is offline Knowledgeable Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    GTA
    Posts
    14,260
    Simple change gear....

  8. #8
    warmouth is offline Productive Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Jorgia
    Posts
    3,353
    Quote Originally Posted by that guy1234 View Post
    It is bio prop 100 tren ace 100. It is the EO causing the pain. It's swelling and hurts very bad. Panntastic, not everyone is allergic to EO. Most people inject it smooth as butter.
    Bio Tech gear kills me. Well, all of their short esters. That is, if its bio tech you are talking about. It is all ive used, and the stuff is so good that I just deal with the pain. Sometimes it takes 2 or 3 days, but maybe I'm a little tougher when it comes to pain. I just deal with it.

  9. #9
    that guy1234 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Posts
    118
    Quote Originally Posted by warmouth View Post
    Bio Tech gear kills me. Well, all of their short esters. That is, if its bio tech you are talking about. It is all ive used, and the stuff is so good that I just deal with the pain. Sometimes it takes 2 or 3 days, but maybe I'm a little tougher when it comes to pain. I just deal with it.
    I've used Bio multiple times all from same source. Yes it is biotech, I love it. Tren is amazing. I'm walking with a body temp of 99.5, sweating like a pig, out of breath after 30 sec of cardio, and I have a kickstand every second of the day.

    Again I love bio but this is the worst pip I've ever had.

  10. #10
    Lemonada8's Avatar
    Lemonada8 is offline Knowledgeable Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Read my blog
    Posts
    3,724
    Blog Entries
    2
    Do you have similar issues after a night of large quantities of drinking EtOH? There is a similar product of EtOH metabolism and EO... that my help point it to the EO in the AAS and not something else

  11. #11
    that guy1234 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Posts
    118
    Nice. I'm only allergic to 1 thing... Liquor. That might explain it. Do you have anymore info on that? I'm gonna start googling now.

  12. #12
    Lemonada8's Avatar
    Lemonada8 is offline Knowledgeable Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Read my blog
    Posts
    3,724
    Blog Entries
    2
    http://www.pnas.org/content/79/13/3954.full.pdf

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethyl_oleate
    "Ethyl oleate is one of the fatty acid ethyl esters (FAEE) that is formed in the body after ingestion of ethanol." (the info cited from wiki is from the article in the first link)

  13. #13
    that guy1234 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Posts
    118
    Thanks.

  14. #14
    panntastic's Avatar
    panntastic is offline "cool as shit and knows his stuff"
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Blighty
    Posts
    4,456
    So nobody is going to comment on the fact gear has benzyl ALCOHOL in it?

  15. #15
    Lemonada8's Avatar
    Lemonada8 is offline Knowledgeable Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Read my blog
    Posts
    3,724
    Blog Entries
    2
    Quote Originally Posted by panntastic View Post
    So nobody is going to comment on the fact gear has benzyl ALCOHOL in it?
    Yea it does.. but it doesnt ever cross paths with ethanol in its metabolism.

    and with the symptoms discribed ( friend has it, no issues: he cant bend leg) *unless u wanna debate the point that its still in diff vials so could be diff... but then that would infer that its not sterile...

    and BA burns, but shouldnt have the reaction described.

  16. #16
    panntastic's Avatar
    panntastic is offline "cool as shit and knows his stuff"
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Blighty
    Posts
    4,456
    Unless the op knows for sure he is allergic to ethyl oleate it can't be solely attributed to this.
    He hasn't mentioned the ethyl oleate % as a carrier
    He also hasn't mentioned the ba percentage as a solvent.
    He never never mentioned pain in the intestinal area but at the injection spot.
    I'm sure it would react differently via Im injection than it would being ingested.
    2 other people have also stated pip from this ugl and the products they sell aswell so I'm assuming we haven't got 3 people all allergic to EO.
    The fact his friend can use it and feel no pain is of no relevance due to all the different factors Involved:
    Different batch
    Ba content
    Tolerance to high ba
    Injection technique

    Just my thoughts

  17. #17
    that guy1234 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Posts
    118
    Per my first post, my friend stopped by my house and pinned himself with my product from my vial.

    I've googled this numerous times and all I can come up with is EO allergies. As lemonada8 stated, it shares properties with liqueur and I'm definitely allergic to that. I was just hoping that someone here had experienced this and had advice wether to push through it or not. I'm about to pin and go workout. Ill let you know how that goes.

  18. #18
    panntastic's Avatar
    panntastic is offline "cool as shit and knows his stuff"
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Blighty
    Posts
    4,456
    Quote Originally Posted by that guy1234
    Per my first post, my friend stopped by my house and pinned himself with my product from my vial.

    I've googled this numerous times and all I can come up with is EO allergies. As lemonada8 stated, it shares properties with liqueur and I'm definitely allergic to that. I was just hoping that someone here had experienced this and had advice wether to push through it or not. I'm about to pin and go workout. Ill let you know how that goes.
    Well if you are allergic why the hell would you carry on?
    Switch brands if I were you

    Are you sure there is eo in your vial?
    Can you post a pic?
    I just find it hard to believe myself as you are showing common signs of pip like the rest of the contributors to this thread. Who also mentioned it was painful home brew

  19. #19
    that guy1234 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Posts
    118
    Panntastic. I know what pip feels like. I'm thirty years old and have done a few cycles. I have not given any side effects I'm having, therefore it would not be correct for you to say I'm "showing common signs of pip".

    My cycle is like this. Test cyp and deca for 12 weeks(ended jan 1st) lowered test dose to 250 wk cruise until Monday feb 18. Then I shot 1cc tren , 1cc prop. I'm going eod.

    My symtoms are as follows:
    Flu like symptoms
    Tired/loss of energy motivation
    Mild heat about 2-3 inches below injection site
    Mild swelling about 2-3 inches below injection site
    Serious pain in muscles injected
    Loss of flexibility in injected muscles

    None of these symptoms came until Feb 18 when I pinned prop and tren. I'm very aware I could switch. I'm playing through the pain. I'm not a *****. The simple reason I posted this is to get information from someone who might also be allergic to EO and if your body can build an immunity if I keep introducing it.

  20. #20
    panntastic's Avatar
    panntastic is offline "cool as shit and knows his stuff"
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Blighty
    Posts
    4,456
    Quote Originally Posted by that guy1234
    Sup everyone?

    Has anyone ever had an allergic reaction to EO? If so, can your body build resistance? I'm getting pip so bad I can't bend my legs for a week.
    Your correct you didn't mention anything about your pain.
    Your describing common everyday pip nothing else.
    You've been told by many others that this brand is painful as well
    I've been brewing myself for 5+ years and never heard or seen an allergic reaction to eo
    All your problems to me are indications of high benzyl alcohol
    The fact you say your allergic to eo and want to keep using it is bewildering to me.
    Does the label state there is eo in the vial?

  21. #21
    warmouth is offline Productive Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Jorgia
    Posts
    3,353
    Quote Originally Posted by panntastic View Post

    Your correct you didn't mention anything about your pain.
    Your describing common everyday pip nothing else.
    You've been told by many others that this brand is painful as well
    I've been brewing myself for 5+ years and never heard or seen an allergic reaction to eo
    All your problems to me are indications of high benzyl alcohol
    The fact you say your allergic to eo and want to keep using it is bewildering to me.
    Does the label state there is eo in the vial?
    It doesnt. Ill try to post a pic if the site allows me this evening. Test c is almost clear. Test p is medium yellow. Deca is clear. Tren is dark.
    The pip from it effects everyone I know. 5 others I know personally experience this as well. It is really bad, mostly from the prop. Deca and C arent too bad, but it is there. It not bad at all from injection till bedtime. But the next day, whew. Its rough.

  22. #22
    panntastic's Avatar
    panntastic is offline "cool as shit and knows his stuff"
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Blighty
    Posts
    4,456
    Quote Originally Posted by warmouth

    It doesnt. Ill try to post a pic if the site allows me this evening. Test c is almost clear. Test p is medium yellow. Deca is clear. Tren is dark.
    The pip from it effects everyone I know. 5 others I know personally experience this as well. It is really bad, mostly from the prop. Deca and C arent too bad, but it is there. It not bad at all from injection till bedtime. But the next day, whew. Its rough.
    So unless the OP knows the brewer himself he's uncertain of an actual EO content in the vial?

  23. #23
    that guy1234 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Posts
    118
    I don't know brewer. Lable does not state eo. I get it from the only source for biotech pharmaclinico. I don't know if it contains EO or not, but I know the symptoms listed above aren't pip.

    Pann, google ethyl oleate allergy. It's real.

  24. #24
    that guy1234 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Posts
    118
    Ethyl oleate (EO) allergy painful injection-image.jpg

  25. #25
    panntastic's Avatar
    panntastic is offline "cool as shit and knows his stuff"
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Blighty
    Posts
    4,456
    Quote Originally Posted by that guy1234
    I don't know brewer. Lable does not state eo. I get it from the only source for biotech pharmaclinico. I don't know if it contains EO or not, but I know the symptoms listed above aren't pip.

    Pann, google ethyl oleate allergy. It's real.
    No I do agree its real mate not doubting that for one second I came across it ages ago when doing research for a few articles I've written.
    All scientific studies are on reactions when ingested not injected.

    I just don't believe any ugl would use it in their brewing as its a pricy chem and from all the other comments on this post have said its really painful gear anyway.

    I honestly think its pip due to excess alcohol levels nothing else
    Try adding some filtered oil to it and cutting the concentration of it down a bit

  26. #26
    that guy1234 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Posts
    118
    Thanks for the advice. Ill leave the cyp out fri morning and use a cc of cottonseed oil. I have 30cc of that.

    Is it possible that its crystallizing in my muscles? I usually work out that body part after, but not always with going eod.

  27. #27
    panntastic's Avatar
    panntastic is offline "cool as shit and knows his stuff"
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Blighty
    Posts
    4,456
    Quote Originally Posted by that guy1234
    Thanks for the advice. Ill leave the cyp out fri morning and use a cc of cottonseed oil. I have 30cc of that.

    Is it possible that its crystallizing in my muscles? I usually work out that body part after, but not always with going eod.
    Now were getting somewhere that actually seems the most likely thing mate crashing in the muscle

  28. #28
    that guy1234 is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Posts
    118
    Ethyl oleate (EO) allergy painful injection-image.jpg

    Here's an example of the mild redness.

  29. #29
    A_Grant is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Posts
    59
    Allergy to EO seems unlikely...

    There are a lot of contaminents that can be present in gear, wich would be more likely to cause an intolerence (ex heavy metals).

    As it's been said, change gear.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •