prop tren cycle

[seriouslifter]

this would be my 6th cycle. i have done tren in the past but not for awhile. im finishing up my test prop, enth and deca cycle and want to try this one next of prop and tren. do most people do this cycle for cutting? would i be able to gain lean muscle/strength and lose bodyfat on this combo since i wont be natty? i would be doing ED pokes and probably 350mg of tren and 500mg of prop weekly? 10 weeks of prop and 8 weeks of tren. is that too much? i have made gains on less dosage so im always cautious going so high then body will rely on it. i bulked this past cycle and dont wanna keep bulking. i need to lose bodyfat. would it be a waste to cut on this cycle?

[AnabolicDoc]

I think tren is perfect for cutting. It will allow you to build muscle even while burning fat. You can always decrease your prop dosage if you want to reduce your AAS intake. Decreasing the dose might also help to decrease any unwanted bulk. Of course if you don't eat less calories than you're burning each day, cutting will be difficult. And if you don't use your daily caloric allotment wisely, increasing LBM will be more difficult.

[redz]

Results of cycles are mostly diet dependent. Tren can be used for anything really, it's great for cutting and great for bulking. Now in general i will agree that you should be under TDEE to cut but for some reason I have found that with Tren it seems possible while staying around TDEE. This may be because of the increase in Body temperature.

[AnabolicDoc]

Results of cycles are mostly diet dependent. Tren can be used for anything really, it's great for cutting and great for bulking. Now in general i will agree that you should be under TDEE to cut but for some reason I have found that with Tren it seems possible while staying around TDEE. This may be because of the increase in Body temperature.

I'm not trying to be difficult or argumentative but I just wanted to discuss someyhing you said. I don't think it's possible to lose weight if your caloric intake matches your TDEE, no matter what supplements one takes (even DNP ). And I think even you are saying the same bc when you say it raises body temp, you are implying that you think it may increase TDEE above the calculated TDEE. I have read many of your posts and I respect your thoughts so please share your thoughts on this. Thank you.

And far as what I said about DNP (or any other thermogenic), it raises actual TDEE above the calculated TDEE thereby increasing caloric output above intake causing fat loss.

[AnabolicDoc]

I also wanted to add that I agree with redz that tren can be used for either bulking or cutting and that that will be determined by diet and training. But tren also has a distinct advantage for cutting that I don't think any other steroid has. That is it allows one to increase LBM while experiencing a caloric deficit. There are countless studies showing this (in cattle, lol) and that's why it's used so extensively in cattle - it causes the steer to increase I size with less feed which saves the ranchers significant amounts of money. From what I've seen it has a similar effect in ppl (and anyone with different experiences please chime in). I think this is just amazing and makes tren invaluable to any cutting cycle.

[redz]

I think my wording is off because TDEE changes...... but if you figure out your TDEE I do believe it would not be the same while on Tren due to the body temperature change.

[songdog]

Stats!

[seriouslifter]

is that a good dosage of tren /test?

[stpete]

With Songdog, can we get some stats?

[seriouslifter]

5'11 about 225 right now.

[seriouslifter]

bumppppp whats a good tren dosage with combo of prop

[AnabolicDoc]

How much prop? Is this your first tren cycle? If you've done tren before please describe? Cycle history?

[Knockout_Power]

5'11 about 225 right now.

age and bodyfat% required for proper assessment

[moss33]

Help!!!!
Hey everyone i rly need ur advice im 22 yrs old 80kg 178 cm,with 12%body fat,,running since i was 10 yrs old and started lifting at 16, but it wasnt for gaining muscle it was for my performance,i left running at my 18 and started lifting to gain muscle weight,so before 6 months i had an accident and broke my shoulder and injured my head so due that i couldnt do anything but taking medicine and couldnt move alot so i lost alot but im gd to go now everything is normal and asked doctor to go back and he was okay,,i wanna bring back my strength and everything i lost,, this will be my third cycle,,first was nandrolone and test,,second was methanabol tabs and test cyp,,followd by winstrol tabs and test,,but both was on low doses,,(10ml test and 100 tabs of 10 ml) so i rly need ur advice on this one ,,this one will be 20ml of tren ace and 20 ml of test prop,,with igf1 sprey ,,goal is to build mass as much as possible without fat or water gains..can anyone plz help me with this i will be pretty happy and thankfull..
Have a nice day!!
And sorry for posting here

[Lunk1]

You will have a much better chance of getting answers if you start your own thread.

[moss33]

Thx bro im new to this and ddnt know sry..but i already started a new one now and will be happy to hear ur advice on that if its possible