Gear for 3rd cycle

[snowblowjoe]

Ya I know. That's why I'm seriously considering not even doing a 3rd cycle. But if I'm losing hair now while I'm not even on cycle then what's the risk?

[PC650]

hahah true

[calstate23]

Ya I know. That's why I'm seriously considering not even doing a 3rd cycle. But if I'm losing hair now while I'm not even on cycle then what's the risk?

Lots of my friends will shed on harsh compounds BUT if you don't have genetics for male pattern baldness their hair tends to grow back....

But If you have genetics for male pattern baldness then YOU WILL BE BALD...So REGARDLESS if you continue steroids or not...You will be bald...The steroids WILL increase how fast you go bald though...

So basically to some it up, for the ones with male pattern baldness the question shouldn't be will I go bald....

It should be how fast do I want to go bald....Do you want to be bald in your early 30's using steroids? Or do you want to be bald in your 40's NOT using steroids?

That's the ONLY question you need to ask

[snowblowjoe]

Exactly right calstate23. I'm more of a short term guy so I know that answer already.
Back to op, are you decided on your cycle? You should repost with your ai and hcg along with your bloodwork and you might get some more advice

[calstate23]

And actually one other thing....I did not see before that you said you were 12-14% bodyfat....

People if you KNOW WITHOUT a doubt you're 10% and below then run your cycles...

But if not, STOP GUESSING...If you are NOT sure what bodyfat % you are then GET IT TESTED!

Most people ARE HORRIBLY off when they guestimate their bodyfat %...

Some people saying they are 15% + when they are 10%....People THINKING they are 8% when they are 15%....

When people are this far off it can f*ck up the cycles you run....

[calstate23]

Exactly right calstate23. I'm more of a short term guy so I know that answer already.
Back to op, are you decided on your cycle? You should repost with your ai and hcg along with your bloodwork and you might get some more advice

And I think he should get bodyfat% tested....12-14% is in a bad area to guess...

7-9% that is not a bad area to guess because either way you are lean...

If the 12-14% ends up being 15% or 16% then I would not suggest the cycle I posted...Or I wouldn't really even suggest anything if you are in 15-16% bodyfat zone...

[snowblowjoe]

I need to get mine tested too. It's almost impossible to find a place that does it scientifically though do you go buy calipers Cal State?

[calstate23]

I need to get mine tested too. It's almost impossible to find a place that does it scientifically though do you go buy calipers Cal State?

Nothing will be 100% without a doubt....

The best way to get MOST accurate bodyfat% is dunk test...Most local colleges do these tests, so it would be best to go to your local university

[Maka]

I'm in the middle of something ... i will replay to all question ass soon as i can .. bf% ?

[austinite]

^ 15+

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

^ 15+

I agree -

Anywhere between 16-18% IMO.

[Maka]

Lots of my friends will shed on harsh compounds BUT if you don't have genetics for male pattern baldness their hair tends to grow back....

But If you have genetics for male pattern baldness then YOU WILL BE BALD...So REGARDLESS if you continue steroids or not...You will be bald...The steroids WILL increase how fast you go bald though...

So basically to some it up, for the ones with male pattern baldness the question shouldn't be will I go bald....

It should be how fast do I want to go bald....Do you want to be bald in your early 30's using steroids? Or do you want to be bald in your 40's NOT using steroids?

That's the ONLY question you need to ask

That is correct calstate23 .

I agree -

Anywhere between 16-18% IMO.

Thank you both!
So we agree my bf% is arround 16-18%.

[Maka]

I finally have an idea about the cycle...considering my high bf%, i tend to believe a cutting cycle would be a more appropriate cycle instead of bulking even more... especially when summer is here in 3 months.

Cycle plan:

test e(500mg/week)- weeks 1-12
Tbol(40mgs/day)- weeks 1-4 ( using tbol as a kickstart)
Tbol(40mgs/day)- weeks 11-14 (using tbol at the end of cycle while the test wares off to keep me going and solidify gains).

PCT:
wk 1-6 Tamox 20mg/ED
wk 1-6 Clomid 50mg/ED (100/ED first 7 days)

Please critic!

[snowblowjoe]

You need to add an AI and hcg

[Maka]

You need to add an AI and hcg

Good! AI wasn't planing but HCG forgot to write it down.

HCG 3 weeks up until a week before PCT at 1000iu's per week
AI ?

[snowblowjoe]

AI is aramotose inhibitor
Letrozole , Stanozolol , or Arimidex
I've always been told hcg 250iu twice a week

[snowblowjoe]

I think hcg you run from week 2 up until last week but I'd confirm that if I was you

[OnTheSauce]

I think hcg you run from week 2 up until last week but I'd confirm that if I was you

I typically suggest this. 500iu a week split into 2 shots

[OnTheSauce]

AI is aramotose inhibitor
Letrozole , Stanozolol , or Arimidex
I've always been told hcg 250iu twice a week

Wut? Winstrol is an ai now? Look for aromisin or arimidex.

[snowblowjoe]

Spellcheck. I meant letrozole arimidex or exemestane

[calstate23]

I finally have an idea about the cycle...considering my high bf%, i tend to believe a cutting cycle would be a more appropriate cycle instead of bulking even more... especially when summer is here in 3 months.

Cycle plan:

test e(500mg/week)- weeks 1-12
Tbol(40mgs/day)- weeks 1-4 ( using tbol as a kickstart)
Tbol(40mgs/day)- weeks 11-14 (using tbol at the end of cycle while the test wares off to keep me going and solidify gains).

PCT:
wk 1-6 Tamox 20mg/ED
wk 1-6 Clomid 50mg/ED (100/ED first 7 days)

Please critic!

Personally, I would still get down bodyfat %.....

No, I do not believe you are 16-18%....You are lower BUT you are still high...I would personally cut down naturally...I know it's hard to wait BUT

You can be 10% and below in 6 weeks with good diet exercise

[Maka]

Thank you all for your help!

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