Non-19nor bulking injectable??

**qscgugcsq** · 03-22-2013, 04:13 PM

i was thinking of possible bulking cycle. and I was looking for a injectable non-19nor bulking aas...

except test of course...

Their is primo but unless its run for a long time it is not very efficient.

their is equipoise that almost everyone say its pure junk...

Their is masteron who is principally cutting aas...

so... Im wondering, is there a good aas for bulking injectable( fast acting) who is not a 19nor...

If yes, which one...??

Thanks

**Gaspaco** · 03-22-2013, 04:15 PM

The real deal are only test and primo!

**qscgugcsq** · 03-22-2013, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by Gaspaco

The real deal are only test and primo!

Thats what i thought...

But I guess 8 weeks of primo wont do shit???

with what ive read primo is one of the best compound for a recomp but if run for over 16weeks.

For someone not in trt is not even to consider...

**Bio-Active** · 03-22-2013, 04:44 PM

Have you posted your stats and meal planning the nutrition forum bro. At 19 you are not going to get many with cycle recommendations.

**qscgugcsq** · 03-22-2013, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by jim230027

Have you posted your stats and meal planning the nutrition forum bro. At 19 you are not going to get many with cycle recommendations.

I'm tired of all the same thing over and over again...

DUDE, first of all, I'm not asking for cycle advice. I'm just wondering.
Second, my diet is in check confirm by the nutrition forum.
third, If I was willing to do a cycle(and I am) anything you would say would be useless like any other comment like this one...

HOWEVER, everything I ask is not related to my cycle, It's not because I'm planning acycle that everything I ask is related. I just like to learn more and more.

So... FOR GOD SAKE! STOP WITH THAT USELESS KIND OF COMMMENT!!! DAMMIT...

**warmouth** · 03-22-2013, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by qscgugcsq

I'm tired of all the same thing over and over again...

DUDE, first of all, I'm not asking for cycle advice. I'm just wondering.
Second, my diet is in check confirm by the nutrition forum.
third, If I was willing to do a cycle(and I am) anything you would say would be useless like any other comment like this one...

HOWEVER, everything I ask is not related to my cycle, It's not because I'm planning acycle that everything I ask is related. I just like to learn more and more.

So... FOR GOD SAKE! STOP WITH THAT USELESS KIND OF COMMMENT!!! DAMMIT...

Dude... chill out. You are asking weird questions. And I think eq is a 19nor. I don't know for certain, and don't feel like looking it up because ill never use that nonsense.

**Granovich** · 03-22-2013, 09:46 PM

there is none!
Testosterone is the shit. you dont need anything else....
Primo is too expensive and not worthy to get... masteron is for cutting and EQ is shit for known reasons to all...
so stick to Testosterone and maybe an oral Tbol or Dbol ... good choice to stay away from 19nors for a while....
i have seen people do up to 9 cycles of only testosterone and still gain alot after every cycle...
there is also HGH if you want to look into it. very interesting

**testluva** · 03-22-2013, 09:49 PM

19nor Nandrolone has two esters. NPP short ester and fast acting and Deca long ester. If you want the 19nor fast acting go with NPP and add to your testosterone base.

**Bonaparte** · 03-22-2013, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by warmouth

Dude... chill out. You are asking weird questions. And I think eq is a 19nor. I don't know for certain, and don't feel like looking it up because ill never use that nonsense.

EQ is not a 19-nor. It is just test with a 1,2 double bond.

**warmouth** · 03-22-2013, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

EQ is not a 19-nor. It is just test with a 1,2 double bond.

Of course you'd catch that, lol. Always count on you buddy!

**Metalject** · 03-22-2013, 11:24 PM

Off hand I can't think of a non-19nor injectable other than testosterone that would be extremely useful when bulking. Of course you could always use injectable Dbol but I know that's slightly a smart answer, lol!

Why are you looking for a non-19nor injectable for bulking? What I mean is what's the purpose, why avoid 19nors?

**BBJT200** · 03-22-2013, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

EQ is not a 19-nor. It is just test with a 1,2 double bond.

Nice. Didn't know that!
I wonder why it's so expensive to produce.

**BBJT200** · 03-22-2013, 11:34 PM

Test only + Tbol will do you well.
Tbol has a 16 hour half life, so the dosing schedule is pretty flexible. It's like Dbol with out the bloat.

If you're gyno prone, masteron will help with that on cycle. It's usually a 'cutting' drug, but really the bulk or cut depends on your diet.

**qscgugcsq** · 03-23-2013, 04:14 AM

Originally Posted by Metalject

Off hand I can't think of a non-19nor injectable other than testosterone that would be extremely useful when bulking. Of course you could always use injectable Dbol but I know that's slightly a smart answer, lol!

Why are you looking for a non-19nor injectable for bulking? What I mean is what's the purpose, why avoid 19nors?

Injectable d-bol... it's interesting... personnally I never saw any, must be pretty rare?
I guess it's possible to make any other oral(if homemade) in injectable form??

Originally Posted by BBJT200

Test only + Tbol will do you well.
Tbol has a 16 hour half life, so the dosing schedule is pretty flexible. It's like Dbol with out the bloat.

If you're gyno prone, masteron will help with that on cycle. It's usually a 'cutting' drug, but really the bulk or cut depends on your diet.

Masteron + AI when trying to bulk must be overkill??? bulking with masteron must be interesting.
And yes T-bol look great.

thanks

Anyone ever tried to bulk with masteron??
What kind of gain you had??
Worth it compared to a test alone??

**panntastic** · 03-23-2013, 04:23 AM

Originally Posted by qscgugcsq

Injectable d-bol... it's interesting... personnally I never saw any, must be pretty rare?
I guess it's possible to make any other oral(if homemade) in injectable form??

Masteron + AI when trying to bulk must be overkill??? bulking with masteron must be interesting.
And yes T-bol look great.

thanks

Anyone ever tried to bulk with masteron??
What kind of gain you had??
Worth it compared to a test alone??

Injectable dbol comes with guiacol and if your willing to pin that crap you may aswell inject bleach (don't do this)
Why inject more volume liquid when you can cap seems stupid

**qscgugcsq** · 03-23-2013, 04:40 AM

Originally Posted by panntastic

Injectable dbol comes with guiacol and if your willing to pin that crap you may aswell inject bleach (don't do this)
Why inject more volume liquid when you can cap seems stupid

I was just curious of all the option there was, and I assume that injectable is not liver toxic but I know that winstrol still is... so is d-bol is liver toxic too in injectable form??

**panntastic** · 03-23-2013, 04:45 AM

Originally Posted by qscgugcsq

I was just curious of all the option there was, and I assume that injectable is not liver toxic but I know that winstrol still is... so is d-bol is liver toxic too in injectable form??

It's all liver toxic doesn't matter which way its administered
It's the very harsh and dangerous chemicals its brewed with I'm more worried about

**panntastic** · 03-23-2013, 04:47 AM

Dbol can't be brewed without guiacol or it wont hold
Here is a study into the effects of guiacol

http://www.medicine.nevada.edu/wps/p...ps-52-0104.pdf

**qscgugcsq** · 03-23-2013, 05:03 AM

Originally Posted by panntastic

Dbol can't be brewed without guiacol or it wont hold
Here is a study into the effects of guiacol

http://www.medicine.nevada.edu/wps/p...ps-52-0104.pdf

Seems good.Death is not that bad XD

thats just insane... why the hell someone would want that in the body... XD

Thanks pann

**panntastic** · 03-23-2013, 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by qscgugcsq

Seems good.Death is not that bad XD

thats just insane... why the hell someone would want that in the body... XD

Thanks pann

No problem
I just don't like the idea of having that in my body when I can cap it along with creatine or something useful

**Bio-Active** · 03-23-2013, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by qscgugcsq

I'm tired of all the same thing over and over again...

DUDE, first of all, I'm not asking for cycle advice. I'm just wondering.
Second, my diet is in check confirm by the nutrition forum.
third, If I was willing to do a cycle(and I am) anything you would say would be useless like any other comment like this one...

HOWEVER, everything I ask is not related to my cycle, It's not because I'm planning acycle that everything I ask is related. I just like to learn more and more.

So... FOR GOD SAKE! STOP WITH THAT USELESS KIND OF COMMMENT!!! DAMMIT...

When you start off a post saying I am thinking of a bulking cycle that is going to lead everyone to believe that you are planning a cycle. If you don't like the reaction you are getting then you need to be more specific with your posts.loose the attitude people are here to help and make sure they are giving solid advice based on experience and stats

**BBJT200** · 09-19-2013, 06:55 PM

You could always get primo ace and take it orally. 3x the dose you'd inject, and its not liver toxic.

Its not an injectable, but its not liver toxic as an oral. Expensive...but this would seem like a decent option.

**austinite** · 09-19-2013, 06:58 PM

OP is 19 years old and needs none of this...

**Cuz** · 09-19-2013, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

OP is 19 years old and needs none of this...

**BBJT200** · 09-19-2013, 07:26 PM

Good point.

**OnTheSauce** · 09-19-2013, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by panntastic

Dbol can't be brewed without guiacol or it wont hold Here is a study into the effects of guiacol http://www.medicine.nevada.edu/wps/p...ps-52-0104.pdf

also giving quite high doses. I haven't had any raised liver or kidney values to suggest toxicity from guaiacol. The effects in that study are nearly immediate. Anyone ever done a shot of TNE? Probably had guaiacol in it. That's the unique smell. You don't use much when brewing, which you obviously know. Your knowledge of brewing surpasses mine by far.