anavar/proviron?

**Jacked121** · 03-23-2013, 09:45 AM

Would Proviron help to increase my mood and sex drive while on anavar only?

**qscgugcsq** · 03-23-2013, 10:12 AM

As far as I know proviron ...

It COULD help you being less shut down because it is supose to raise LH. However, it increase the sensitivity of Androgenic receptor so It will make var more efficient, and probably worst on shutdown...

If you are shutdown it wont help you with anything...

And do not forget that both are liver toxic and you will be running 2 oral...

I strongly advice you to add test in it and do a complete cycle...

Still, I dont believe its a good idea.

Plus, its both dht derivative so it might be hard on the scalp.

Things above is my opinion and deduction from what I know, It may be wrong. You better wait for a more experienced member to confirm or reajust what Ive said.

Good luck

**Jacked121** · 03-23-2013, 10:18 AM

Even though it's an oral, Proviron is considered to be very mild on the liver, and thus, liver damage is not a concern while using this substance. Proviron is fine to take with another oral

**Rylan2013** · 03-23-2013, 05:07 PM

What is with people and oral only, your WASTING your money!.. You need test

**Champ2012** · 04-04-2013, 01:35 AM

Dude,I was thinking about doing the same cycle,does anyone have some positive feedback on this?

Op,I'm not trying to jack your thread,but since we're on the same page,I figured what's the sense in making a new thread...

Guys,this will be my first real cycle...Everyone says orals are bad for a first timer,but even durrah once said his first cycle was anavar ...I'm not trying to get huge,I'm trying to get shredded...Thoughts anyone with something positive to say?

**panntastic** · 04-04-2013, 02:01 AM

Test only is the best first cycle
Orals do have their place but as an accompaniment not as the sole steroid

**Turkish Juicer** · 04-04-2013, 03:35 AM

Besides the fact that an ''Anavar only'' cycle is ridiculous, bringing Proviron into this game can make things even worse.

Why? Because Proviron is not an AI and it will only help with suppressing natural Testosterone levels further, meaning a further damage to HPTA will be established.

Moreover, if the user is genetically inclined to develop any typically DHT related sides such as prostate hypertrophy, hair loss and etc., Proviron will contribute to these sides.

Not a good idea. Simple and plain.

**Champ2012** · 04-04-2013, 04:03 AM

What would you recommend for a beginner with no real experience with steroids ,who's just trying to get shredded?

Everyone keeps telling me testosterone for a beginner cycle,but I would rather do test when I hit thirty an my levels begin to decline...

Stats:age 28,height 5-8,175lbs,lifting on an off since I was thirteen...

**ironbeck** · 04-04-2013, 04:09 AM

Test is best.......there is a reason for this saying.

**panntastic** · 04-04-2013, 04:28 AM

Originally Posted by Champ2012

What would you recommend for a beginner with no real experience with steroids ,who's just trying to get shredded?

Everyone keeps telling me testosterone for a beginner cycle,but I would rather do test when I hit thirty an my levels begin to decline...

Stats:age 28,height 5-8,175lbs,lifting on an off since I was thirteen...

It's probably best you start your own thread fella
But
Test is to be used as the base to any cycle and if you want to wait till your 30+ then your doing a very mature thing.
Research on diet and the effects steroids do to the body before taking the plunge.

**Jacked121** · 04-04-2013, 06:20 AM

I thought Pro Bodybuilders like to use this as part of there pct to help recovery, it does not cause shut down

**Turkish Juicer** · 04-04-2013, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by Jacked121

I thought Pro Bodybuilders like to use this as part of there pct to help recovery, it does not cause shut down

Then you should do more researching and less commenting.

**Turkish Juicer** · 04-04-2013, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by Champ2012

What would you recommend for a beginner with no real experience with steroids ,who's just trying to get shredded?

Everyone keeps telling me testosterone for a beginner cycle,but I would rather do test when I hit thirty an my levels begin to decline...

Stats:age 28,height 5-8,175lbs,lifting on an off since I was thirteen...

Testosterone is the naturally occurring hormone that makes a man a man. It burns fat, speeds up the recovery process drastically, helps build and retain lean muscle tissue, gives you the extra strength and the edge if you need it and etc.

When you use any anabolic androgenic steroid , your naturally occurring Testosterone levels will inevitably decline, which is precisely why a cycle has to be either a Testosterone-only cycle or a cycle that consists of multiple compounds yet Testosterone remaining as the basis of it. Moreover, Testosterone is a wonderful tool that simply allows the user to do whatever he wants with it, such as bulking, cutting or simply gaining that edge without necessarily working on physical composition.

If you want to get shredded, you have to figure out more than just lifting for a number of years. Has it ever occurred to you why a pro BB who is muscular and ripped pays 80% of his total attention to nutrition when there are so many variables in the game?

I would hit the nutrition section and figure out what you need to figure out first, since no steroid is capable of doing what nutrition alone is capable of doing in terms of body re-composition. As is, we have many members on this forum who like to dirty bulk when they juice and it becomes inevitable for them to spend their winters with 18%?+ body fat. Thus, a tool is a tool only in the hands that know what to do with it.

**Jacked121** · 04-04-2013, 08:55 AM

Testosterone will shut you down more then anavar or proviron .....so what are you trying to say and u need to research, Bodybuilders often incorporate this drug into all of their cycles, and also into their PCT programs.

**XxAndreaxX** · 04-04-2013, 09:47 AM

The problem is by not using Test, that you get towards the end of your cycle, and you'll start having some sides, less and less sexdrive (till not getting even an erecction), you'll get tired, and even may loose muscle instead of building.
Will Proviron help you out? don't know, proviron is known for increasing libido, although it will shut you down further, that's right, but test will do either. can Proviron replace test?? It will not, but maybe you won't loose your libido. I say maybe, because I never tried it out without test. I only made a monocycle like yours, and lost libido towards the end.
And in PCT, I lost all the gains.
So I suggest to use test, maybe at min levels like 100mg EW, but if you want to be a Pioneer and prove us that Proviron will do the job, I'm curious.

**Champ2012** · 04-05-2013, 12:42 AM

Thanks to everyone helping us understand why test is so important during a cycle...To mr panntastic,I agree,a good diet does wonders...One day I'll be the new god of aesthetics,until then,much research is needed...