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    sustanon or cypionate

    Hello all, I took sustanon about 6 months ago and had very good results, I was wondering if cypionate would have the same or even better results than sust? Anybody ever taken both on different cycles to see which is better?

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    test is test bro, diet dictates your results regardless of the compound/s...

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    All things being equal (including diet), it largely depends on the injection protocol you used for Sust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    All things being equal (including diet), it largely depends on the injection protocol you used for Sust.
    This. Although personally I would stay away from Sus unless you're planning to inject EOD. As Mickey said.

    I wouldnt go for Cyp though, if you can get Test-Enth I would suggest this is a better option.

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    How about some stats OP?
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    Why enth? I injected eod with sustanon . I've heard cypionate is the best one. What about prop?

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    I injected 150mg eod with sustanon , and stacked it with 300mg equipoise once a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black
    How about some stats OP?
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    Oh sorry didn't see that post, was mesmerized by the pic lol. I'm 5'8, 165lbs, idk my body fat percent, havnt checked it in awhile, I'm 23 yr old, i don't have to much fat on me. I stay pretty lean.

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    Which one closest resembles your bodyfat?

    sustanon or cypionate-image-6867291.jpg

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    I'd say around 12-14%

    Yes I have def read them, I took an AI, with my cycle and also took nolvadex and Clomid for my PCT at the end of my cycle.

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    Ok, post your proposed cycle, including ancillaries. If you don't mind pinning EOD then prop would seem a better option IMO.

    Before you post it read these for me please

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...g-and-Steroids

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    Quote Originally Posted by krugerr View Post

    This. Although personally I would stay away from Sus unless you're planning to inject EOD. As Mickey said.

    I wouldnt go for Cyp though, if you can get Test-Enth I would suggest this is a better option.
    Why would you suggest E over C? I understand if ita a personal opinion, but either one is fine, as they are almost one in the same. My preference is cyp ONLY because I like saying it. Honestly, that's why its my preference in long esters. It sounds like the name if a cyborg alien or something.
    OP, I prefer single esters. I can control blood plasma levels easier and to me, it is just a better option. Test is test, but injection frequency is a major factor depending on the ester attached.
    Prop is my favorite.

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    What's so good about prop

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    Quote Originally Posted by justin6489
    What's so good about prop
    Faster pct times

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    sustanon is over hyped garbage period! Just because it has multiple compounds in it doesn't mean it's a superior product. Only means there will be no possible way for you to keep the hormones at any remotely stable level through out the course of your cycle. Cyp and Enan either or is the way to go for test if size is your goal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metal1877 View Post
    sustanon is over hyped garbage period! Just because it has multiple compounds in it doesn't mean it's a superior product. Only means there will be no possible way for you to keep the hormones at any remotely stable level through out the course of your cycle. Cyp and Enan either or is the way to go for test if size is your goal
    please stop posting this info, you really need to become a bit more educated on this compound...

    OP, my concern is you never built a base on yourself before you started cycling. You are 165lb after previous cycling?

    With that being said, I know you're going to continue with your next one so you need to outline the goals for this cycle and that will determine which compounds to use.

    Test E/C just split hairs to be honest. You get a bit more mg/mL of test out of E but nothing that will dramatically change results. Sust will start showing results quicker but you need to pin more frequently (as you know) and it seems an AI is almost mandatory for Sust. But this could just be from improper pinning protocols and the shorter esters in sust

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knockout_Power

    please stop posting this info, you really need to become a bit more educated on this compound...

    OP, my concern is you never built a base on yourself before you started cycling. You are 165lb after previous cycling?

    With that being said, I know you're going to continue with your next one so you need to outline the goals for this cycle and that will determine which compounds to use.

    Test E/C just split hairs to be honest. You get a bit more mg/mL of test out of E but nothing that will dramatically change results. Sust will start showing results quicker but you need to pin more frequently (as you know) and it seems an AI is almost mandatory for Sust. But this could just be from improper pinning protocols and the shorter esters in sust
    You are correct on the AI. I find AI management requires much more hands on approach with blends. I usually dose AIs a bit higher on Sust and SuperT because my E2 creeps up fast - bit that's also likely due to higher total doses when running more concentrated ear

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    I am very educated on this compound as well as many others. My point is most uneducated ppl believe this is the best form of test simply because of the blend and if that is why someone believes or thinks such it is clearly not the case. And it is a fact there is no possible way to keep these multiple compounds at any type of consistent level which is a primary focus i believe of anyone that is using basically any product. Definitely not trying to argue or seem like a smart ass just what i have learned with research and experience. I apologize if i seem offensive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metal1877
    I am very educated on this compound as well as many others. My point is most uneducated ppl believe this is the best form of test simply because of the blend and if that is why someone believes or thinks such it is clearly not the case. And it is a fact there is no possible way to keep these multiple compounds at any type of consistent level which is a primary focus i believe of anyone that is using basically any product. Definitely not trying to argue or seem like a smart ass just what i have learned with research and experience. I apologize if i seem offensive
    I certainly agree that new or less educated users should stick with prop/C/E.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metal1877 View Post
    I am very educated on this compound as well as many others. My point is most uneducated ppl believe this is the best form of test simply because of the blend and if that is why someone believes or thinks such it is clearly not the case. And it is a fact there is no possible way to keep these multiple compounds at any type of consistent level which is a primary focus i believe of anyone that is using basically any product. Definitely not trying to argue or seem like a smart ass just what i have learned with research and experience. I apologize if i seem offensive
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    Well back on subject, and away with the arguing.... it seems like everybody has their own opinion on which test is better. Are there any facts that make one better than the other? I wouldn't mind trying prop/e/ or c, I would like to cycle the one that shows up the quickest and that you don't have to cycle to long on.

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    I like Prop when I'm cutting. Shorter esters require less water to breakdown so it retains less water in the body. Longer esters then to hold a little more water. Prop/E/Cyp all works just fine. I did sus once and boy did those injections hurt!

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    Test acetate requires ed shots. Faster than prop, and hurts less. That's my recommendation

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