Current cycle and CRAZY Lab Work results. It has to be an error!

[Indymuscleguy]

Group,

Review my lab work results and I'd appreciate comments and advice. You won't believe your eyes when you see the total testosterone value...makes absolutely no sense.

47
5'10"
188lbs

Cycle history 10 years of training 2-3 cycles per year

Goal - Maintain Lean mass
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Ok group, My current cycle is:

Week 4:

Test Cyponate 250mg 1x's week
Test Masteron 100mg 3x's week
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**Due to history of joint inflammation, I was placed on a prednisone taper dose by a Rhumatologist.
30mg x 7 days
20mg x 7 days
10mg x 7 days

**I've never been on prednisone at the same time I was doing a cycle.
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I saw my endocrinologist and my TRT blood work was due and I asked him to add a few additional tests. Here are the results:

IRON: 40MCG/DL (Low) 65-175MCG/DL
DHEA: 30ng/DL (Low) 61-1636ng/DL
Pregnenolone: 15ng/DL 13-208ng/DL
Estradiol:43.8PG/ML (High) 0-39.8PG/ML
Progesterone: 0.3ng/ML <0.1 - 0.2
Prolactin: 9.9ng/ML 3.5-19.4ng/DL
T4 Free: 1.4ng/DL 0.7-1.5
TSH: 0.35uIU/ML 0.35-4.94uIU/mL

*****Testosterone 3052NG/DL************** Yes 3,052!

How in the world does one get a Total Testosterone level of 3.052? I suspected the prednisone was the culprit but from what I read, it lowers your testosterone levels .

Low Iron - OTC supplements ok?
Low DHEA - OTC supplements ok?
Estradiol - I have A-Dex in stock...start 0.25 eod?

Discuss and advise.....

[Indymuscleguy]

Bump for advice...

[Bio-Active]

Wow that total T is really high for 250 ew. Takes me 600 to produce those numbers. How long after you pinned did you run the labs?

[Indymuscleguy]

I had my 3rd Masteron and the 250/mg of Cyp the night before. I wonder what he's going to say when I go on my follow-up. What do you make of the other results?

[Granovich]

well you are on testosterone cycle
YES numbers are too high for such dose. but you are on testosterone so no problem
are you using an AI ? Estradiol is high

[Bio-Active]

If you just pinned the night before you ran labs its possible but yes I would think you need an AI

[Indymuscleguy]

I have a-dex on hand and will begin 0.25mg 3x's week to start. I want to wait to see if my endo wants to repeat my bloodwork. I have not pinned since I got the results just in case he orders a repeated total test lab. I see him on Tuesday.

[OnTheSauce]

Maybe your source gave you test, labeled as something else....

[Bio-Active]

Maybe your source gave you test, labeled as something else....

That could be....

[Indymuscleguy]

Hmm...The cyp is from the pharmacy...the Masteron is labeled 100mg/cc (Russian) The source is an UGL and New to me. Perhaps they did label it wrong. What about the other low levels I posted? How do you raise DHEA?

[OnTheSauce]

Hmm...The cyp is from the pharmacy...the Masteron is labeled 100mg/cc (Russian) The source is an UGL and New to me. Perhaps they did label it wrong. What about the other low levels I posted? How do you raise DHEA?

Take s dhea supplement. Trt guys use it along with hcg or pregynl

[kelkel]

You want DHEA and Pregnenolone supplements. Both in micronized form only. I'd suggest 50mg of each in the morning as they can act as a slight stimulant. LEF.com has DHEA and it's all micronized. MRM is a decent brand for micro preg.

You can take iron as well. Low dose, maybe 65mg elemental iron x 2 per day. Take it with a gram or two or vitamin C at the same time as it will help absorption. Normally when iron goes down TSH goes up and vice versa. Not seeing that here so I would not think you'd need to continue this long term. Just keep an eye on it with lab work. A good panel to pull with all related elements would be 790.6 for abnormal blood chemistry.

While your at it you may as well start supplementing vit D3 as well at around 5K iu's per day. Test it next time (25-Hydroxy.) Guaranteed your low and it will help keep your free T higher by virtue of suppressing your shbg. Doesn't matter currently as the amount of test your on will stomp your shbg but starting now will be a plus for your normal TRT levels. It's probably the most important vitamin, actually a hormone, that you can take. D is in every cell in your body.

[Indymuscleguy]

You want DHEA and Pregnenolone supplements. Both in micronized form only. I'd suggest 50mg of each in the morning as they can act as a slight stimulant. LEF.com has DHEA and it's all micronized. MRM is a decent brand for micro preg.

You can take iron as well. Low dose, maybe 65mg elemental iron x 2 per day. Take it with a gram or two or vitamin C at the same time as it will help absorption. Normally when iron goes down TSH goes up and vice versa. Not seeing that here so I would not think you'd need to continue this long term. Just keep an eye on it with lab work. A good panel to pull with all related elements would be 790.6 for abnormal blood chemistry.

While your at it you may as well start supplementing vit D3 as well at around 5K iu's per day. Test it next time (25-Hydroxy.) Guaranteed your low and it will help keep your free T higher by virtue of suppressing your shbg. Doesn't matter currently as the amount of test your on will stomp your shbg but starting now will be a plus for your normal TRT levels. It's probably the most important vitamin, actually a hormone, that you can take. D is in every cell in your body.

Thanks guys. I am on 225mcg of synthroid per day and 5mg of cytomel as I had graves disease of the thyroid in 2007. It was discovered last year that I was severely Vitamin D deficient and currently take 50,000 IU twice per week. (Yes I said 50,000iu twice a week prescribed by my endo).

[Indymuscleguy]

Update: So I saw my endocrinologist today and he said the following:

My Total testosterone was a 'fluke' (he doesn't know I use gear) and is running a 'Free Testosterone'. He wanted me to wait until mid-next week to have it drawn. I stopped all test as I don't want him to get suspicious.

He prescribed Iron and said that prescription strength is what I need. Will this aid in my training/recovery?

He said my estradiol was high but not to worry about it. I disagree...I started 0.5 A-Dex three times a week on my own anyway.

Once I have the bloodwork drawn, I will resume my Cyp/Masteron cycle....

Thoughts? Comments?

[600@50]

With your E2 being only marginally high I would start the adex at .25mg eod. No need to go .5mg unless you have to.

[Indymuscleguy]

ok Thanks 600@50