Cutting Cycle

**Papiriqui** · 04-02-2013, 07:06 AM

I am wondering what a cutting cycle would look like. Just for informational purposes, we dont have to go into dosages as this is pure for me to learn about different compounds that aide in the process of burning fat along with a good diet. Obviously test is base with everything, also it would be for second third cycle so tren is definitely out, i wouldnt touch it after a very long while.

What would help drop perhaps a couple digits while retaining lbm, lets say when you are at a 10% or lower, something like that!

**Allaaro** · 04-02-2013, 07:16 AM

Diet is key....going lower in bodyfat as long as you are using test you shouldn't have any muscle loss unless your deficit is too large....which is hard to do on AAS unless you are trying to eat too little.

Tren /T3/Clen /mast/etc are all not needed. But could be added depending on goals and time constraints. Like I'd be running a lot more and probably tren if I was in a large calorie deficit compared to a normal cutting calorie deficit...where just testosterone is fine.

**Beyazit** · 04-02-2013, 07:36 AM

The best AAS for cutting is diet!

AAS are designed to make you bigger, not smaller...

**fit2bOld** · 04-02-2013, 07:44 AM

Diet and cardio. Great stack!

**Papiriqui** · 04-02-2013, 08:51 AM

Well right now im cutting natty and thats on point. i was just wondering as stated originally. Remember the lower bf the harder and trickier it gets to achieve it which is the reason why i said about an AAS to aid, which is the same reason why we do it to get big in the first place is to aid the process when diet and exercise are the foundation of it.

For example var is known for quality gains but also it helps lower bf when you are already low of course, that kind of thing is what i meant...

Im doing a bulk cycle later this yr, hopefully sometime in june or a bit later. I have to work out the diet and get it on point before i start since i have never done a bulk before. I know about maintenance and cutting but never bulked so this will be a first and to get it to where i am comfortable gaining lbm while keeping fat to a minimum its going to take me a little.

**Papiriqui** · 04-02-2013, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by fit2bOld

Diet and cardio. Great stack!

I already do that lol. Results are there but what i asked was not for what i am doing now, im all natty. Was just wondering, adding more to my knowledge library...

**Papiriqui** · 04-02-2013, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by Allaaro

Diet is key....going lower in bodyfat as long as you are using test you shouldn't have any muscle loss unless your deficit is too large....which is hard to do on AAS unless you are trying to eat too little.

Tren/T3/Clen/mast/etc are all not needed. But could be added depending on goals and time constraints. Like I'd be running a lot more and probably tren if I was in a large calorie deficit compared to a normal cutting calorie deficit...where just testosterone is fine.

Tren i am not interested for now or actually for a while, my first real cycle will be in about 4-6 months after i finish the cut im in and then work my diet for the bulk so it will be a while but regardless im not doing tren for a few yrs...

**Papiriqui** · 04-02-2013, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by Beyazit

The best AAS for cutting is diet!

AAS are designed to make you bigger, not smaller...

I think i should have posted that i am cutting natty right now and that what i was asking was not meant to ask info for what should i take right now to help but rather learn, i did post that part lol. I already know about proper nutrition and what i need to do to tweak my diet to achieve certain results, been doing it for 2 yrs already with the great help of the nutrition forum back then, so i know what nutrition means better then a lot of people because i have seen in myself what it does!!!!

**fit2bOld** · 04-02-2013, 09:39 AM

Say it again regardless of AAS use, certain products help to archive a certain look such as anavar , masteron primobolan work best at lower bodyfat. That said the key is still the diet. AAS can be used to preserve muscle wipe running other products such as clen and T3, here agin proper nutrition is still key to achieving the desired result

**ChiveOn** · 04-02-2013, 01:00 PM

As everyone has already stated, even though if you read it's obviously not the question lol, diet and cardio! But I'm goin in on my first big cutting cycle. Test P, tren A, mast P, T3. All are good cutters with a good diet. Primo is great and so is var, but expensive. If you're close to a show and your body fat is super low, halo works great. And then the obvious clen /albuterol

**Papiriqui** · 04-02-2013, 01:03 PM

WoW that is a lot of compounds LOL. No im not close to a show and never will lol. This is a lifestyle for me, as far as nutrition goes, everything else will follow along little by little. Baby steps..... At the moment i am getting results with diet and hard cardio so im not worried there at all as i mentioned, the cutting and maintenance is not the issue for me is when it comes to bulking i will have to refer back to the nutrition section for some guidance.... Thanks all for the responses.

**warmouth** · 04-02-2013, 01:29 PM

Technically, you can "cut" with any compound. It is the caloric deficit that determines the outcome. When you think about the Golden Age of BBing, many of those guys would use Dbol up til comp. Of course a lot has change since, but it can be done. I have experience with cutting while using Deca . But the typical compounds are short esters(not that it makes a difference), and stuff like Test P(normally a low dose of test), Mast, anavar , winstrol , primo, NPP, Tren . All of these work good while in a calorie deficit.