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    Super [W]hormone is offline New Member
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    finalized 13 week RAT RACE

    Rabbit's Bio:
    lifting for ~8 years on/off; about 5.5 years total ACTUALLY lifting
    Age - 23
    height - 5' 10"
    weight (currently) - 181lbs
    fat % - N/A (although i presume around 10%, my abs still show)
    B: 230 -all RAW- for now
    S:405
    DL: n/a


    SUPPLEMENTS:
    NO-xplode
    Cycle support
    ALA 600mg/day spaced apart
    grape seed extract
    Whey powder
    Multi vitamin NOT mineral (adult gummies)
    Magnesium glycinate
    Zinc citrate
    Vit. C in the morning for reducing cortisol
    Vit. D 5000iu in morning with calcium
    Niacin in morning

    EDIT@4:48
    13 WEEK RACE

    Test E
    250/EW1-10]
    ?maybe 125 twice a week? comments?
    ?frontload first week@500??
    Dbol
    40/ED KICKSTART *split 10 .m.g doeses* [1-3or4]
    Var
    *after 4 weeks OFF DBOL*
    start@80/ED *split doses* [8-12]
    ?taper down weeks 8-12?
    80/60/40/20
    ?+/- halo or replace var with halo
    **NOTE**
    ~i want to gain about 25lbs general mass - prepared for water weight - and keep about 15+
    ~WILL var and/or halo at a tapered to a low dose (lower for halo) for weeks 10-12 strip water off fairly quickly - with proper diet - and help maintain strength while final exogenous T isn't interrupting my HPTA too, too much anymore~

    NOLVA for PCT (also above mentioned cosmetic enhancements)
    ~few g.rams of NOLVA available
    ~regretfully, only PCT besides supplements/Cycle Support
    ANY TIPS??
    40/ED for the 1st week, 20mg/day 2nd week, et al ?

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    Didnt you get the answers you were looking for yesterday??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Didnt you get the answers you were looking for yesterday??
    ^^^^This

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    Super [W]hormone is offline New Member
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    please clarify some thoughts i had. im new and i just want to be 100% certain thanks in advance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super [W]hormone View Post
    please clarify some thoughts i had. im new and i just want to be 100% certain thanks in advance!
    My thoughts are still that you have to wait two more years. But that does not seem to stick. Most members will tell you that. The risks at your age is too high and damage can be perminent.

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    ok ill take ur advice; i appreciate it man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super [W]hormone View Post
    ok ill take ur advice; i appreciate it man
    Only looking to help man... In the mean time, you can do so research on beginner cycles. You are trying to put too many compounds in your body.

    2years is not a very long time. To take that risk for permanent damage, is not worth while. TRT is no jokes. And TRT in your twenties will suck even more.

    In these two years you will get good gains naturally if you train hard and maintain a good diet. You can build a good platform to launch from with AAS later in life.

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