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    Cutting Cycle

    Clen , T3, and Keto liquids? Acceptable stack? First cycle before bulk.

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    Clen is garbage in my opinion. Although some can handle it, I certainly can't. T3 is a great compound when coupled with a low dose of Test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Clen is garbage in my opinion. Although some can handle it, I certainly can't. T3 is a great compound when coupled with a low dose of Test.
    In your opinion how much T3 should be run alongside 250mg/week of test and 75-100mg/day anavar to facilitate fat loss without too much catabolism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifterpuller View Post
    In your opinion how much T3 should be run alongside 250mg/week of test and 75-100mg/day anavar to facilitate fat loss without too much catabolism?
    75 is plenty for most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    75 is plenty for most.

    I'm running 50mcg in the morning right when I wake up an hour before breakfast right now eating at a 500cal deficit, thinking about adding another 25mcg an hour before my last meal, is this wise or should I just dose the entire 75mcg right in the morning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Clen is garbage in my opinion. Although some can handle it, I certainly can't. T3 is a great compound when coupled with a low dose of Test.
    So Clen from ar-r is garbage? If so, what would be a nice cutting cycle in your opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talik View Post
    So Clen from ar-r is garbage? If so, what would be a nice cutting cycle in your opinion?
    Doesnt matter where it comes from. 'm not referring to the source, I'm talking about the compound. test and t3 is plenty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Doesnt matter where it comes from. 'm not referring to the source, I'm talking about the compound. test and t3 is plenty.
    Any specific test? and dosage info?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talik View Post
    So Clen from ar-r is garbage? If so, what would be a nice cutting cycle in your opinion?
    It's not garbage I get good results from it. It's just a tad underdosed compared to the tabs I've taken. I love clen , but I love stimulants in general

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    Pharmaceutical grade clen is anything but garbage

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe View Post
    Pharmaceutical grade clen is anything but garbage
    Who on earth ever used Pharm clen ? I doubt anyone has.
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    Bro. there is literally over 100 thousand threads on cutting cycles. Hit the search button.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Bro. there is literally over 100 thousand threads on cutting cycles. Hit the search button.
    Didn't help me with my specific question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talik View Post
    Didn't help me with my specific question.
    You want to be spoon fed? Not going to happen. I'm not trying to be rude but please, do some research, propose a full and complete cycle and we will critique it. That's how you get good answers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    You want to be spoon fed? Not going to happen. I'm not trying to be rude but please, do some research, propose a full and complete cycle and we will critique it. That's how you get good answers.
    t3 100mcg a day
    test e 500mg 2 times a week

    im honestly clueless even with research, which is why im asking.

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    Austinite you can't be serious.

    Spiropent clenbuterol from *************** is as good as it gets
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    t3 100mcg a day
    test e 500mg 2 times a week or once a week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talik View Post
    t3 100mcg a day
    test e 500mg 2 times a week or once a week?
    What are your stats? height, weight, BF %?
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    What are your stats? height, weight, BF %?
    5'10-11, 213, between 28-31 %

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talik View Post
    5'10-11, 213, between 28-31 %
    I wouldnt touch any of this stuff to be honest, Talik. You need to drop your BF naturally before you do any of this. A dose of Test that would stave off any muscle loss would come with amplified side effects. Please research and consider an ECA stack, lots of cardio and a diet evaluation in our nutrition forums. You can go into Ketosis and lose a lot of fat fairly quickly.

    Sorry. I know it's not what you want to hear, but I can't safley and comfortably recommend Test/T3 at this stage.

    Best of luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    I wouldnt touch any of this stuff to be honest, Talik. You need to drop your BF naturally before you do any of this. A dose of Test that would stave off any muscle loss would come with amplified side effects. Please research and consider an ECA stack, lots of cardio and a diet evaluation in our nutrition forums. You can go into Ketosis and lose a lot of fat fairly quickly.

    Sorry. I know it's not what you want to hear, but I can't safley and comfortably recommend Test/T3 at this stage.

    Best of luck.
    When would u advise me to use T3 and test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe View Post
    Clen t3 and albuterol from Ar-r is complete garbage, especially when you compare it to the legit Pharma grade stuff
    You've never tried any of that from Ar-r . Seriously, I don't know what forums you keep getting your info from, but no need to spew it here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe View Post
    Austinite how ignorant can you possibly be? How the **** would you know what I have or have not had from Ar-r . Do you work in there accounting department or some shit lol
    I even private message to you specifically about the t3.

    The facts you're such a sales rep for Ar-r and bad mouth anyone who says anything bad about arr completely destroys your integrity and credibility. We all know you get kickbacks from: them but try not to make it so obvious next time okay lmao
    From the PM's you sent me. Your questions to me indicate an extreme lack of experience. You think you can just take magic pills and they will work, it's obvious you don't pay any attention to detail.

    I'm no salesman, I am experienced. I never mentioned AR. I never used their clen , I only used their T3 and albuterol. I was speaking of the compound itself. Regardless of the source.

    And watch your mouth, snow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe
    Austinite how ignorant can you possibly be? How the **** would you know what I have or have not had from Ar-r . Do you work in there accounting department or some shit lol
    I even private message to you specifically about the t3.

    The facts you're such a sales rep for Ar-r and bad mouth anyone who says anything bad about arr completely destroys your integrity and credibility. We all know you get kickbacks from: them but try not to make it so obvious next time okay lmao
    Can you provide your proof regarding the 'sales rep' and 'get kickbacks' please Joe?
    NO SOURCES GIVEN

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe View Post
    Austinite how ignorant can you possibly be? How the **** would you know what I have or have not had from Ar-r . Do you work in there accounting department or some shit lol
    I even private message to you specifically about the t3.

    The facts you're such a sales rep for Ar-r and bad mouth anyone who says anything bad about arr completely destroys your integrity and credibility. We all know you get kickbacks from: them but try not to make it so obvious next time okay lmao
    We support ar-r BECAUSE they have great products and service!
    you think they could afford to pay all of us kick back for our positive comments? AHHAHA they would go broke im sure!

    you just sound like a tool......

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    Clen and Eca together does miracles

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    Clen and eca together, yea idk if my heart could take that. IMO that's a little too much.

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    Re read your statement Austin you just proved to everyone you lied. Now all of a sudden I have taken the products I'm just not experience enough according to you since your God and you're all knowing lol
    Its funny though because the t3 and other products I get do happen to be magic pills because they sure as hell work like magic on me

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe View Post
    Re read your statement Austin you just proved to everyone you lied. Now all of a sudden I have taken the products I'm just not experience enough according to you since your God and you're all knowing lol
    Its funny though because the t3 and other products I get do happen to be magic pills because they sure as hell work like magic on me
    Show me where I lied.. quote me. I would like to see where I lied. My only mention of AR was to tell OP that I am not referring to the source, but the compound itself.

    I know why you're so upset. It's because I refused to source check for you. Even after you failed to read the "NO SOURCE CHECKS" disclaimer, and even after I told you I would not source. You kept hinting at wanting a source. This is quite annoying and immature. So get over it.

    Stop being aggressive. You're not going to get anywhere with that. you're making things worse.
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    Not to interrupt the cat fight.... Lol

    But with a body fat around 30% you are WAY too high to cycle ANYTHING! Do NOT cycle. I would never recommend to anyone to cycle with an ounce over 20% bf. and I would never cycle myself with over 15%. It's just asking for sides

    Clen , t3, keto. They are not your answer nor will you see much out of any of them with such high body fat. You need to diet and cardio down to under 20% IMO.
    I don't mean to slam you OP but you gotta understand that AAS are not magic. And if you let yourself get to 30% bf you likely aren't disciplined enough to eat and train right on cycle anyway....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiveOn View Post
    Not to interrupt the cat fight.... Lol

    But with a body fat around 30% you are WAY too high to cycle ANYTHING! Do NOT cycle. I would never recommend to anyone to cycle with an ounce over 20% bf. and I would never cycle myself with over 15%. It's just asking for sides

    Clen , t3, keto. They are not your answer nor will you see much out of any of them with such high body fat. You need to diet and cardio down to under 20% IMO.
    I don't mean to slam you OP but you gotta understand that AAS are not magic. And if you let yourself get to 30% bf you likely aren't disciplined enough to eat and train right on cycle anyway....
    No need to lecture me on discipline, i spent a large portion of life as an Army Ranger. The only reason I got to about 30% is due to injuring my shoulder and being out of physical activity for about a year.

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    'uve never tried any of that from arr "

    In reference to me using there t3,clenbuterol , and albuterol

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe View Post
    'uve never tried any of that from arr "

    In reference to me using there t3,clenbuterol, and albuterol
    I was referring to you saying that you proved I'm a liar. That means nothing.
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    That's actually exactly what It proves. You know I did those and then go on to say I know nothing about them lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowblowjoe View Post
    That's actually exactly what It proves. You know I did those and then go on to say I know nothing about them lol
    I have no idea what you're on about. So good luck to you bro... I get you're upset. But understand, no source checks means don't ask. Now you're just throwing a hissy fit like a little girl.
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    Joe you shouldn't make accusations based on zero facts
    Especially towards a well respected staff member
    I've read all this and Austin states he doesn't like clen regardless of where its from and as for the kick backs where have you got this info from?

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    Oh geesh, Why can't we all just get along?!

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    I don't need source checks kid I get Pharma grade bro

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