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    Sus and deca first cycle

    Before you start on me, I know you should do a test only cycle for your first cycle.

    My mate has started doing sus and deca , his mate suggested to do .5ml of each Monday and Thursday so all up 250mg of sus and 300mg of deca per week. I suggested to up the sus to 500mg per week and deca to 300mg per week and run that for 12 weeks and drop the deca and continue another 2 weeks of just sus and then nolva and clomid pct.

    The question is, am I right or should he drop the deca all together and just run 500mg of sus for 12 weeks? He is already 5 weeks in.

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    What are his stats?
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    austinite,i have to comment on your pic,,,,she is a very attractive woman.

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    He is 25, no previous cycles. Benching 100kg and weighing about 80kg, been lifting for about 4 years, about 5ft 10'

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    Drop the deca . What is his ai? What is planned pct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junk bomb
    He is 25, no previous cycles. Benching 100kg and weighing about 80kg, been lifting for about 4 years, about 5ft 10'
    He weighs 176lbs for all you Americans

    What is his bf%?
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    His bf is roughly 12% and he hasn't been running any ai yet, I've only just found out what he has been doing for the past 5 weeks.

    So what if I tell him, up the sus to 500mg per week and run the rest of the deca at 300mg for what he has left (prob 4 -5ml) and then just continue the sus till week 12. Start running liquid ex for ai and then tamox and clomid for pct?

    Does that sound alright?

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    I'd just run sust for 12 weeks with an AI and hCG , then PCT with nolva and clomid. Check out Mickeys Beginner cycles thread.
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    Yeah I know that's what I would do, but he has already started and is 4-5 weeks in on 250mg sus and 300mg deca per week.

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    you should just ask him to join. Seems odd advising someone who isn't even here.
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    None of my mates are smart enough to research what they're doing, I was just hoping someone could confirm that the advise I'm giving him is correct?

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    Good thing he is older than you or the advise would have been to stop everything.
    Thank goodness he is 25.
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    Yeah I know, still he has no idea and the dude he gets it off gives tells him a retarded cycle to start on.

    Originally he was going to do just 9 - 10 weeks of 250mg sus and 300mg deca ..

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    I wouldn't pin sust less than e3d, at 750mg/wk but that's just my opinion. If ANYTHING have him up it to 500mg. I never eat of anyone running thier Deca higher than the test. 500mg of test and 3-400mg of Deca seems pretty standard unless you're experienced. Yes, run the test out a few weeks longer. And no, I wouldn't suggest running more than 12 weeks. In my (limited) experience I prefer cycles that range from 8-10 weeks. I don't really ever see a need to go further

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    Thanks a lot mate that helps, would there be any bad effects of dropping the deca half way through cycle and switching to sus only?

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    Anyone else can help me with some input. Surely someone must have an idea

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