How does this look as a first cycle...open to your knowledge...

[buddy13]

I am seriously considering going into my first cycle.Well my stats first...

Age: 30
Weight: 72kg
Build: Average
Height: 5'10
Bodyfat percentage: around 15%
Diet: Clean around 2000-2200 cals/day
Workout regime: 1-2 times/day x 6 times per week. Range from high intensity short duration (less than 1 hour) to medium intensity medium duration (1.5 hours).

I am a pro boxer who have been training with weights and boxing for the last 10 years or more. I know very well how to train and eat. I eat 5 small meals a day and train once or twice/day x 6 days/week. Especially of late I have a very slow metabolism and am finding it quite difficult to cut down & reach my competition weight of 68kg. I also tend to blow up fast after a fight just by eating a few extra calories or give up on the strict diet. Since I do lots of cardio/running/intervals and high heart rate work my body does not hold onto a lot of muscle either.

I want to cut down to say 8-10% bodyfat, increase my power, strength & endurance and keep bodyweight near or below the 72kg. I know it is a lot to ask.I have been reading a lot of info on Anabolic steroids on the web and the amount of info is mind boggling.I think I came up with a half decent program though. What do you think?

Compounds:

testosterone propionate
trenbolone acetate
HCG
clomid
nolvadex


Structure:

weeks 1-8
100mg testosterone propionate every other day (EOD)
75mg trenbolone acetate every other day (EOD)
HCG 150iu on Sunday and Wednesdays throughout cycle

3 days after last injection begin PCT:

2 weeks of 150mg/day clomid followed by
2 weeks of 50mg/day clomid followed by
2 weeks of 40mg/day nolvadex followed by
2 weeks of 20mg/day nolvadex

should I see any improvement in a relatively short amount of time? Would only 1 cycle get me anywhere? Thanks for your help so I can know what to expect!

Edit: Also to add. My body tends to hold onto water quite a lot. I eat clean (low sodium diet). Take lots of Vit B and drink 4-5 litres/day. I am thinking of using Winstrol as Anavar is almost impossible to get hold of in my area (pls dont ask). How should a beginners test/winstrol cycle look like? I have read that eq helps lots with stamina but I want to get the dry hard/look too...

[Lunk1]

Good luck with all that cardio on tren !

[buddy13]

Good luck with all that cardio on tren!

What would help my cardio? But athe the same time does not cause water retention etc...

[Lunk1]

What would help my cardio? But athe the same time does not cause water retention etc...

Water retention has nothing to do with compounds and everything to do with ancillerys and diet.

First cycle without question should always consist of test ONLY for good reason

[-Ender-]

^ I agree with Lunk.

You have done some research and you have things laid out well, however this cycle does not fit your goals. This is an indication that more research needs to be done on the side effects and their implications during cycle.

Test only is the way to proceed for your first run.

Great post also OP. Nicely presented.

[MickeyKnox]

Dopamine agonist? Always have on hand with 19 nors bro.

Aromatase Inhibitor?

[buddy13]

Thanks for your replies. I have read that a first cycle should be Test only. Is it possible to achieve my goals of improved body composition while adding strength using test only? I was thinking of going for Test prop. Can I add some Winny tablets along to help with fat loss?

[songdog]

1st cycles are test only bro.This way you can see how your body will react.And you should read the stickys they will give you some knowledge of wat you are doing.

[-Ender-]

Thanks for your replies. I have read that a first cycle should be Test only. Is it possible to achieve my goals of improved body composition while adding strength using test only? I was thinking of going for Test prop. Can I add some Winny tablets along to help with fat loss?

Yes. You are on the right track now.

[Capebuffalo]

150 mg of clomid a day is a lot.
100 mg is plenty for a week then drop..

And just to clarify your running clomid and nolva together correct?

[panntastic]

150 mg of clomid a day is a lot.
100 mg is plenty for a week then drop..

And just to clarify your running clomid and nolva together correct?

150mg clomid is going to play havoc I your vision as cape said 100mg is plenty

[Gaspaco]

1st cycles are test only bro.This way you can see how your body will react.And you should read the stickys they will give you some knowledge of wat you are doing.

Agree!

[Gaspaco]

150mg clomid is going to play havoc I your vision as cape said 100mg is plenty

Even 100mg is a LOT for me to handle.

[crazy mike]

Hey Buddy, All these guys are in sync so that really drive it home. Good that you came in and asked Q's. I can verify that the Tren will kill your cardio and at your age even more, take that to the bank, I experienced it. Good luck, you are off to a real good start by some research on your part and verification on this board. ....crazy old mike

[Honkey_Kong]

What level of pro-boxing are you at? And are you getting drug tested before your fights? And in between? You need to be aware of the detection times of the gear that you put in your body.

And by the way, don't run anything but test your first cycle. You'll make good gains off just that alone.

[buddy13]

150 mg of clomid a day is a lot.
100 mg is plenty for a week then drop..

And just to clarify your running clomid and nolva together correct?

I'll try 100. Yess thats what I thought.Good?

[buddy13]

Should I include an aromatase inhibitor?If so what you suggest?

[Honkey_Kong]

Should I include an aromatase inhibitor?If so what you suggest?

Arimidex is fine.