Deca 250

**joey2011** · 05-01-2013, 07:46 AM

I'm on cycle 2 can anyone tell me about this product when should I start to notice results ?

**clarky.** · 05-01-2013, 07:49 AM

Are you using test aswell ?

**joey2011** · 05-01-2013, 07:52 AM

No I'm just using deca 250 and takin protein throughout the day

**marcus300** · 05-01-2013, 07:53 AM

You shouldn't just be taking deca , big mistake

what are your stats?
how long you been training?

**clarky.** · 05-01-2013, 07:56 AM

AS above mate that's a bad idea you need the test so your body can function normally.

**joey2011** · 05-01-2013, 07:58 AM

I jus started working out again about 2 months ago and I jus hopped on this stuff about 2 weeks ago is it bad that I'm jus takin that will the results not show I'm new at this so please explain , I had a friend that jus took deca 250 and it did him pretty good is there anything u recommend after I finish to keep putting mass on and getting bigger?

**marcus300** · 05-01-2013, 07:59 AM

I would stop taking it,
how long you been training?
stats?

**joey2011** · 05-01-2013, 08:02 AM

Why should I stop taking it I don't understand ?

**marcus300** · 05-01-2013, 08:03 AM

exactly,

how long you been training?
stats?

**joey2011** · 05-01-2013, 08:06 AM

2 months

**clarky.** · 05-01-2013, 08:06 AM

Listen to the big man ^^^^ stop what your doing and read and learn then you will see why you were told to stop its for your own good mate this is a very good forum and there is great guys here who will help.

**joey2011** · 05-01-2013, 08:09 AM

Ok so what do y'all recommend I do

**marcus300** · 05-01-2013, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by joey2011

2 months

Ive asked 3 times for your stats and get no response so I wont ask again.

Stop cycling straight away, you have only been training for 2 months and you shouldn't be taking deca only anyway....

**joey2011** · 05-01-2013, 08:16 AM

This may sound funny so please don't judge but what do u mean on my stats ?

**clarky.** · 05-01-2013, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by joey2011

Ok so what do y'all recommend I do

Nothing you should be training natural for a few years before you touch aas.

**marcus300** · 05-01-2013, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by joey2011

This may sound funny so please don't judge but what do u mean on my stats ?

Age
weight
height
bf

**joey2011** · 05-01-2013, 08:22 AM

21, 167weight, ht 5/11

**marcus300** · 05-01-2013, 08:25 AM

Stop taking the cycle straight away and get some pct. You shouldn't be cycling with only 2 months worth of training under your belt and your only 21yrs old.

AGE
In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.

TRAINING
You need a few years of hard training under your belt before even considering taking any kind of anabolic support, people who jump on a cycle to soon without having some quality years under their belt usually results in injuries, it takes time to develop your connective tissue, tendons and nervous system to heavy overload training. Slowly getting your own system use to these kinds of extreme's will only help in muscle growth later on when you do decide to start taking AAS.

Build a solid foundation for muscle tissue to grow and maintaining and development will be far greater than without it. Many younger guys will start cycling before they have reached their genetic potential which is crazy when a good solid diet and training program will be far beneficial and productive to muscle building.

Workouts should be mainly focused on basic movements with a priority of over loading the muscle each and ever time you train, increasing your strength and ability to lift in proper form will help with building the foundation for future development

DIET
A lot of younger bodybuilders don't know how to eat. Researching and understanding how your own body responds will help you get to your natural limit, the right food at the right time and a full understanding of proteins,carbs, and fats will only help you succeed in achieving your natural goals. Keeping a diet diary will also help you understand the importance of macro, nutrients, calories and should help you see in which areas you could be going wrong in adding lean muscle tissue.

No matter how much anabolic support you have it will be worthless without proper nutrition, food will help build and maintain your valued muscle weather its natural, cycling or in PCT. Adjusting your food intake and consuming muscle building foods coupled with a solid training program will help you achieve your natural limit and foundation before you start AAS use.

This area is a huge problem with the younger guys and I can't express enough how important diet/food is when first starting out, post and pre training nutrition are very important and understanding how to load and feed the body will help push growth and create a very natural anabolic environment.

**joey2011** · 05-01-2013, 08:30 AM

I really do appreciate all the information u gave whTs the pct?

**marcus300** · 05-01-2013, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by joey2011

I really do appreciate all the information u gave whTs the pct?

Post cycle therapy

How many injections have you had?

**joey2011** · 05-01-2013, 08:49 AM

That's it

**marcus300** · 05-01-2013, 08:53 AM

How many injections have you had

**joey2011** · 05-01-2013, 10:09 AM

4 injections

**marcus300** · 05-01-2013, 10:16 AM

Stop taking the deca and after 18 days take some liquid Tamox Welcome to Ar-r.com!

Take it daily for 4 weeks
40,20,20,20

**marcus300** · 05-01-2013, 10:16 AM

Stop taking the deca and after 18 days take some liquid Tamox Welcome to Ar-r.com!

Take it daily for 4 weeks
40,20,20,20

**joey2011** · 05-01-2013, 12:46 PM

I appreciate all the tips but I'm jus gonna remain workin out and after I'm done ill jus get pct cycle

**Back In Black** · 05-01-2013, 12:57 PM

You would be wise to follow the advice given.

You would be crazy to continue on your current course. PCT is unlikely to save you from a world of trouble if you continue.

**Iron-56** · 05-01-2013, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by joey2011

I appreciate all the tips but I'm jus gonna remain workin out and after I'm done ill jus get pct cycle

Not a good idea man. Listen to Marcus. You are going to shut down hard and at that point PCT won't help. Run testosterone with the cycle or you will end up erectile problems.

**Doom44** · 05-01-2013, 11:29 PM

You should listen to the big guys

**joey2011** · 05-01-2013, 11:39 PM

Ok well I had a friend that took the same thing n everything is good with him he had no problems I'm not sayin y'all are wrong but don't y'all inject to how is it so bad for me but not y'all

**Doom44** · 05-01-2013, 11:54 PM

You just working out for 2 months. You should build more foundation on lifting weight. And you way too young .
But it's your choice . You do what you think it's cool.
Good luck man.

**joey2011** · 05-02-2013, 12:14 AM

I understand that man but like my friend did the same roids and he's pretty cut and nothin went wrong with him

**Back In Black** · 05-02-2013, 12:32 AM

Then why bother coming here asking? Think your friend would even consider telling you he couldn't get it up or even if he could that it wouldn't last? You want that at 21? plus you have no testosterone in your system, you aren't taking any and you have shut your own production. You're gonna end up less than your 167lbs in a few months to go along with your inability to bang even the hottest girls.

**panntastic** · 05-02-2013, 01:05 AM

Seriously mate listen to all the advice here

These are people who live this life and they are giving you advice that could save you from a lot of hurt.

2 months training and taking steroids your risking a massive injury to your tendons and ligaments
Not to mention an immature endocrine system that's now being assaulted by a 19nor steroid .
As BIB said you've shut down natural testosterone production and not supplementing with any external testosterone.

Your mate may look like he's doing ok but do you think he's going to tell you his peckers not working?
Of course he isn't

These blokes have given to the best advice don't just disregard it
Nobody wants to be reading the " you guys were right" thread in 4 months time.

**marcus300** · 05-02-2013, 01:45 AM

Originally Posted by joey2011

I understand that man but like my friend did the same roids and he's pretty cut and nothin went wrong with him

Come on now think about this, you have been training 2 months, you don't know how to train properly, you don't know how to eat correctly, you don't understand what your taking, you don't know what pct is and your 21yrs old. Surely this doesn't take a 21yr old to work this out that this is a bad idea.

**Black** · 05-02-2013, 04:41 AM

Any man who still goes by the name "Joey" isn't mature enough to take anabolics, among other things.

**joey2011** · 05-02-2013, 09:14 PM

Anybody by the name Joey who the **** are u to tell me my name dont come at me with that shit

**Iron-56** · 05-02-2013, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by Dante Diamond

Any man who still goes by the name "Joey" isn't mature enough to take anabolics, among other things.

What does ones name have to do with anything?

**pitchindude** · 05-02-2013, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by joey2011

Ok well I had a friend that took the same thing n everything is good with him he had no problems I'm not sayin y'all are wrong but don't y'all inject to how is it so bad for me but not y'all

-You're too young.
-Too inexperienced.
-No natural base to build off of.
-Only two months of lifting (should years of serious lifting with a proper diet.
-You're not running any test. Deca only = big mistake.
-You've got not PCT planned out, on hand, or even any knowledge of what it is.

You've pretty much done everything wrong. And dangerously. And foolishly.

You're ignoring one of the most experienced and helpful members on these boards because your "friend" did the same and hasn't seen any issues (yet). You WILL have trouble from this soon if you continue with this foolish cycle. Stop now and start PCT. You'll likely end up being one of the kids that come crawling back here begging for help because you've developed tits or can't get it up. But hey, it's up to you.