Question about estrogen too low and testosterone too high?

**VenicePump** · 05-01-2013, 07:58 PM

I am just curious, if your estrogen is too low and testosterone too high. Will this affect muscle growth?

The reason I ask because for some reason I feel lot more pumped, harder, and better when I take 1 MG a day of Arimidex . I know this sounds like a crazy high dose, but my doctor was saying everyone is different. I am getting blood test next Monday again to see where my E levels are at.

But if I surpress estrogen down too far, will it negatively impact my cycles? Or would it be better for it to be lower then being too high?

**Knockout_Power** · 05-01-2013, 08:01 PM

You don't want your estrogen to be non existant or it will hinder growth. But if its too high you get some nasty sides and some of which are health threatening.

**VenicePump** · 05-01-2013, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by Knockout_Power

You don't want your estrogen to be non existant or it will hinder growth. But if its too high you get some nasty sides and some of which are health threatening.

Yea I agree, but if estrogen is too high (moderately) will it effect my growth and leaning out of a cycle? You know what I mean? Because someone was telling me the other day that the test can convert into estrogen; therefore it will decrease my daily test NG levels in my body?

**Knockout_Power** · 05-01-2013, 08:15 PM

If you are talking about your natural test levels, those drop the moment you start injecting exogenous sources of test. Its your bodys natural feedback loop working (also why your nuts shrink)... Estrogen rises via the aromatase enzyme, but that's an entire different lecture. Its all the body trying to keep things in balance.

Get yourself some HCG to keep your boys functioning and use an AI while on cycle (at regular doses outlined) and you will be fine

**VenicePump** · 05-01-2013, 08:25 PM

Yea I have to take around 1 MG EOD of Arimidex for 200 MG of test per week. If not I start feeling puffy in the face and funny feeling. I feel like my stomach is puffy (holding water as well). My doc is recommending me 1 MG EOD. He was saying everyone is different. Some times I have to g up to 1.5 MG EOD, but usually this is only after the first 24-48 hours after my last injection.

**kelkel** · 05-01-2013, 08:30 PM

Way too much adex, unless you have breast cancer. You will eventually crash your E and feel horrible. If you're too puffy examine your diet, salt and water intake. Meaning take in less salt and more water. I think you need to reduce your Adex intake and look elsewhere for the puffiness issues.

**Knockout_Power** · 05-01-2013, 08:31 PM

its not unheard of to go that high, but Im amazed you need it at just 200mg of test. You are really sensitive. Sorry man.

I can go up to 600ish before I even notice any water retention

Maybe rethink cycling

**VenicePump** · 05-01-2013, 08:35 PM

This is actually what my doc is recommending too. I feel much better as well. It has nothing to do with my diet, believe me I know my diet very well and eat consistently clean foods (even before taking test). The puffiness issues did not start until taking test (diet has been the same as always I am aware of salt intake and etc). I increased the Arimidex and I feel normal again (actually quite well along with a well being feel).

BTW my doc told me other day, everyone is different. He said some people can take 200 MG a week of test with barely any Arimidex (sometimes none). Then others need strong dosages of arimidex like 1 MG EOD to maintain. This is what he specializes in too.

**kelkel** · 05-01-2013, 08:40 PM

Well, odds are you have a normal amount of aromatase enzyme and I hope for your case you do well with such a high dose. BW will tell. Best of luck.

**VenicePump** · 05-01-2013, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Well, odds are you have a normal amount of aromatase enzyme and I hope for your case you do well with such a high dose. BW will tell. Best of luck.

Yea I am going to get a blood test again next Monday. My doc said it's normal for some people to take that much. The others can get away with taking next to none. I am not sure, blood test will give me accurate estimates.

I am just curious, when your on a cycle, where do you keep your test levels and estrogen levels?

**kelkel** · 05-01-2013, 08:56 PM

Test levels are up to you but if on cycle they will be supraphysiologic so at what point does the number matter, right? Estrogen is best kept between 20 - 30 via a sensitive assay, IMO. If you use labcorp I can give you the correct E2 codes.

**VenicePump** · 05-01-2013, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Test levels are up to you but if on cycle they will be supraphysiologic so at what point does the number matter, right? Estrogen is best kept between 20 - 30 via a sensitive assay, IMO. If you use labcorp I can give you the correct E2 codes.

Yup I used lab corp. This was before my cycle though. I have not had blood test done though since I started test. I just know after my injection once a week I feel like the test is wanting to aromatize, so I have to take most of my arimidex during the first few days after injection.

Is there another way to get test done without having to go through my doc. Because I think they charge more going through them.

**crazy mike** · 05-01-2013, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by VenicePump

Yup I used lab corp. This was before my cycle though. I have not had blood test done though since I started test. I just know after my injection once a week I feel like the test is wanting to aromatize, so I have to take most of my arimidex during the first few days after injection.

Is there another way to get test done without having to go through my doc. Because I think they charge more going through them.

I'm just curious, cause I don't know what and how to you FEEL like your Test is wanting to aromatize. ? ...crazy mike

**J DIESEL3** · 05-05-2013, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Test levels are up to you but if on cycle they will be supraphysiologic so at what point does the number matter, right? Estrogen is best kept between 20 - 30 via a sensitive assay, IMO. If you use labcorp I can give you the correct E2 codes.

Hey kel could u please post the codes for the sensitive assay.

last week I ordered a male basic hormone panel from life extension and the estrogen was not a sensitive test!So I just want to be sure it's right this time around. Thanks man