any other ways to lower hematocrit

[snowblowjoe]

If donating blood is not an option are there any other ways to lowering your hematocrit?

[MajorPectorial]

Some say sapirin but aspirin only helps by somewhat thinning blood and reducing clots, but doesn't lower hct. Similar to those prone to heart attacks/strokes whose doctors tell them take aspirin.
Two ways to lower: give blood or find source of high hct and stop for 4-6 weeks. If really high (over 50) I'd deal with it right away.
A good way to take it down lower than standard donation is donate double red cells (I think u can do this anywhere that does blood donations - red cross does it).

[snowblowjoe]

Ya just the fukn amateurs can never find a vein on me good enough. Guess I will keep trying. Maybe go to a different center where it's not fukn amateur hour

[Back In Black]

Ya just the fukn amateurs can never find a vein on me good enough. Guess I will keep trying. Maybe go to a different center where it's not fukn amateur hour

They'd likely have a better chance if you were less than 25% bf

[snowblowjoe]

Nah has nothing to do with that unfortunately. Even when I was 15 or whatever you guys think I was in my first pic they could never find a good vein on me. I have good veins in the forearm but for some reason the only allowed to use the ones on your arm elbow pit

[austinite]

Wheres your hCT at?

[snowblowjoe]

When I last got it checked it was 2 points over on the high side. And that was before I started current cycle 4 weeks ago so I'm sure much higher now =(

[snowblowjoe]

Here ya go austinite

[MajorPectorial]

i know.what u mean about ppl getting a vein. Having a history.of svt and operations etc. Im more than happy watching them take bloods and the like. No problem. But yeh. It seems like they take on average 2-4 goes to get it right. Arms or even hands bruised to hell. N u can feel the bump of my veins too. See em clear as day to the point my missus hates heing able to see em. I think its.simply they dont either have enough experience or need to have a bullseye tatood on ur arm.
But.
If u need to do it. Im.sorry to say. U just gotta get it done. Im pretty lucky in that respect. ;-)

[austinite]

Should have never started with high hCT. You should stop the cycle and get your blood levels fixed. I've drained myself before, but I don't recommend it. Try donating double red cells. I don't know anyone that was sent home because they "couldn't find a vein".


Fish oil may help, but won't do anything if you're cycling.

[austinite]

Some say sapirin but aspirin only helps by somewhat thinning blood and reducing clots, but doesn't lower hct. Similar to those prone to heart attacks/strokes whose doctors tell them take aspirin.
Two ways to lower: give blood or find source of high hct and stop for 4-6 weeks. If really high (over 50) I'd deal with it right away.
A good way to take it down lower than standard donation is donate double red cells (I think u can do this anywhere that does blood donations - red cross does it).

Correct. Aspirin will thin the blood, preventing clots. It will not lower hematocrit.

[MajorPectorial]

Ive heard.ppl self draining. But didnt want to advise it. If u were gunna do it. Dont do it alone. U get lightheaded n faint or blackout (n im not sayin this would happen), but common from things like double red cell procedure to feel "light headed', but yeh. Id get sorted prior to a cycle simply as a std protocol if nothing else. U wanna be "at ur best" on a cycle. U certainly dont wanna risk makin it worse.

[snowblowjoe]

I couldn't agree more. I wouldn't have started the cycle if I knew there would be such a problem with me donating blood. I just assumed I would be able to donate a couple pints and be good to go that's why I started my cycle even tho it was currently on the high side. Next time I go I will be persistent and say I'm not leaving until you find something. Is it okay if I tell them my HCT is really high or should I not tell them not?

[snowblowjoe]

Also I'm familiar with the double red cell procedure but with that procedure they don't take a full pint out the only way I can get a full pint taking out is if I get the regular procedure so would it be better to get the one pint or still better to get the double RBC even though it won't be as much actual blood?

[MajorPectorial]

Yes true. But its more "what" they take out over how much, here;
Double red cell donation is similar to a whole blood donation, except a special machine is used to allow you to safely donate two units of red blood cells during one donation while returning your plasma and platelets to you.

So. In essence you could argue theyre taking double. I think they add saline back too. Im sure aust could give u more insight.

I only looked into it due to being anal about it all cuz my svt.
After all my worrying. Ive been fine. And my svt has even calmed somewhat.
(Touch wood)
No hidden meaning there (pann) lolz

[snowblowjoe]

What's svt? And I really appreciate the info that will really help me out thank you

[Bonaparte]

I don't know of any drug that will speed the destruction of RBCs, but you could always overdose on blood thinners and internally haemorrhage

[D2'd]

Isn't eating 1/2 a grapefruit a day supposed to help with red blood cell control?

[crashfirepm53]

Nah has nothing to do with that unfortunately. Even when I was 15 or whatever you guys think I was in my first pic they could never find a good vein on me. I have good veins in the forearm but for some reason the only allowed to use the ones on your arm elbow pit

A/C Antecubital vein.

[crashfirepm53]

What's svt? And I really appreciate the info that will really help me out thank you

Supra ventricular tachycardia. Heart rate above 150 is technically svt even though we've all done that during cardio. Svt may or may not be effort induced and I have see hr of 240 plus many times and even though it is called ventricular, it begins in the atrial valve.

Do you take medication or can you control it with vagual stimulation?

[snowblowjoe]

My svt is fine. The other guy mentioned it so I asked

[snowblowjoe]

Finally got a pint taking out I don't know if it's placebo but I swear to God I feel better already. who knew that hematocrit have such a drastic effect on your mental health

[Dougiefresh7707]

You have no veins cuz your bf% is high and you can't see them I've never ha that problem they don't even like using a turnikit cuz they think that the a/c vein is gunna squirt blood every where.

[Dougiefresh7707]

Also any where you donate blood it's a pint at least out here I do it every time I can which is like 4-5 months.

[snowblowjoe]

Here it's 56 days. And I'm not fukn fat anymore. I dropped alot of bloat fat since my last pic. You are dead wrong for the reasoning they couldn't find veins before. Anyway no problems today

[Dougiefresh7707]

Here it's 56 days. And I'm not fukn fat anymore. I dropped alot of bloat fat since my last pic. You are dead wrong for the reasoning they couldn't find veins before. Anyway no problems today

For one that wasn't bloat you where pushing 30 % bf . Two you didn't post that pic 56 days ago, three wen if that was 56 days ago I doubt you got Down to 15% in that time because obviously you don't know how to train or diet sry brother just being honest.

[snowblowjoe]

No foolio I said you can only have them take blood every 56 days. If you go and they don't take blood you can go as much as you want. I could care less what you think. You have no useful accurate information ever