Ive been feeling like shit.. Why??

**human project** · 05-09-2013, 06:17 AM

I don't know why I've been feeling so shitty... I've dropped my steroid use to 300-400mg per week and I am taking between 20-30ius of hgh a week.... I am also taking an arimidex , 50mg t3, aspirin, prenatal vitamin every day and hcg every 5-7 days..... Why do I feel terrible??? So tired all the time but never rested

**Lunk1** · 05-09-2013, 06:20 AM

Ummmmm...long steroid run with no time off maybe

**human project** · 05-09-2013, 06:24 AM

I don't really come off.... I went down to 200mg of test every 5-6 days since my competition and just this week moved up to 300mg every 5 days.... I don't come off steroids bc I feel I am fully shut down and I don't want to loose any muscle.... My goals may differ from yours but as far as I know as long as I'm under 400mg I am cruising correctly right???? I've been under 300mg for about two months...

**Lunk1** · 05-09-2013, 06:29 AM

No...300-400mg is still a cycle dose silly. A cruise would typically be a TRT dose wich is often under 200mg. Your CNS probably needs a nice rest.

T3 could be the other issue. My wife and I were both using it recently and she experienced some nasty issues. Had BW done and her thyroid was way over stimulated. She stopped and about 7-10 days later started feeling better.

Obviously BW would help...could be B12 levels, E2 levels...who knows!

**vladan** · 05-09-2013, 06:29 AM

I had similar experiences especially after high androgenic cycles. Problem with depression I solved using Proviron . This is one of my personal favourites and I often use it in conjunction with Nolvadex as I find the two do work better together in my experience. Proviron will lighten your mood while not hinder the recovery of your natural secretion of testosterone .

**Bio-Active** · 05-09-2013, 06:37 AM

Are you running an AI and how much hcg are you pinning each time?

**anahny** · 05-09-2013, 06:43 AM

T3 usually has an effective on being fatigue but since it's only at 50mcg I don't think it would be the t3. But it's still a possibility considering t3 has an effect on people differently with no relations to weight or size. A 100lb female could handle 140mcg if her body responds well to it. I say get your thyroid checked just to be sure. Blood work will tell you what's wrong

**human project** · 05-09-2013, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by jim230027

Are you running an AI and how much hcg are you pinning each time?

250mcg

**baseline_9** · 05-09-2013, 10:09 AM

Are u following a HIT training program?

**marcus300** · 05-09-2013, 10:11 AM

Check your RBC, after long cycles my RBC would climb so high it would be me feel so tried, lethargic and just feel like shite. I know how you feel about coming off trust me I do but you really need to for your health's sake. You have to have time off otherwise your going to run into trouble and its not fun

**Lunk1** · 05-09-2013, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Check your RBC, after long cycles my RBC would climb so high it would be me feel so tried, lethargic and just feel like shite. I know how you feel about coming off trust me I do but you really need to for your health's sake. You have to have time off otherwise your going to run into trouble and its not fun

RBC is a likely possibility as well indeed. HP...time for BW!

**Buster Brown** · 05-09-2013, 10:27 AM

Have you been using hgh @ 20-30 iu's a day for a long time and have you always used the same brand?

**Body brick** · 05-09-2013, 10:28 AM

Can anyone help me im new and cant seem to get any response, are these gtg or not?

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**Body brick** · 05-09-2013, 10:32 AM

Plz need some feedback here if possible

**baseline_9** · 05-09-2013, 10:32 AM

Body brick.....

Start ur own thread and edit the image to remove the site....

**Buster Brown** · 05-09-2013, 10:32 AM

You will get a much better response if you post your question in the brand/ugl discussion page.

**marcus300** · 05-09-2013, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by Buster Brown

Have you been using hgh @ 20-30 iu's a day for a long time and have you always used the same brand?

Its per week not per day BB

Originally Posted by Body brick

Can anyone help me im new and cant seem to get any response, are these gtg or not?

You need to start your own thread and not jump in someone else's, thanks

**crashfirepm53** · 05-09-2013, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Body brick

Can anyone help me im new and cant seem to get any response, are these gtg or not?

Your asking the wrong question in the wrong forum. Start your own thread in the anabolics.

**Buster Brown** · 05-09-2013, 10:41 AM

Ooops, my bad. Damn double shifts at work!

**Lunk1** · 05-09-2013, 10:43 AM

They look real but only one way to know for sure

**fit2bOld** · 05-09-2013, 12:59 PM

T3 made me feel like shit at 5mcg Lasted 2 weeks on it. Never
Again. Get the RBC checked. Might need to
Lose a pint.

**snowblowjoe** · 05-09-2013, 04:04 PM

Hey guys chubs Mcgee chekn in lol

If your hematocrit is too high does it effect you mentally? Like make you feel lethargic or shitty etc etc?

**snowblowjoe** · 05-09-2013, 04:06 PM

NM I see it's answered earlier in thread

**Ashop** · 05-09-2013, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by human project

I don't know why I've been feeling so shitty... I've dropped my steroid use to 300-400mg per week and I am taking between 20-30ius of hgh a week.... I am also taking an arimidex, 50mg t3, aspirin, prenatal vitamin every day and hcg every 5-7 days..... Why do I feel terrible??? So tired all the time but never rested

You may just be taking too much stuff for too long.

**ironbeck** · 05-09-2013, 05:30 PM

Dude you must be rich to be able to do that much HGH, UNLess ITS tHAT CHINeese garbage whiuch could definitely be the root of your problem, doing that much foe a long time.

BUt spesaking from experience your body just gets tired man, and u NEED to take a break , ITS that simple bro!

**human project** · 05-11-2013, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by ironbeck

Dude you must be rich to be able to do that much HGH, UNLess ITS tHAT CHINeese garbage whiuch could definitely be the root of your problem, doing that much foe a long time.

BUt spesaking from experience your body just gets tired man, and u NEED to take a break , ITS that simple bro!

I've already been loosing some strength "no loss in muscle or weight yet" but my energy and overall well being is in the garbage at 300mg test a week.... I could drop down to 200 but if I'm feeling like shit now how would taking even less test make me feel any better??? I don't want to loose too much during this cruise so what would you recommend I do or take for the next 4-6 wks??

**human project** · 05-11-2013, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Check your RBC, after long cycles my RBC would climb so high it would be me feel so tried, lethargic and just feel like shite. I know how you feel about coming off trust me I do but you really need to for your health's sake. You have to have time off otherwise your going to run into trouble and its not fun

Right now I'm down to 300mg test a week... Along with 250mcg hcg every 5-7 days "I'm really susceptible to estrogen issues from hcg" also taking 1mg arimidex per day and 50mcg t3.... What do you recommend i take for my cruiz??? I'm already loosing strength and endurance in workouts..... Honestly I can barely even lift weights at all...... In all reality it's getting hard to even get out I bed

**human project** · 05-11-2013, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by Buster Brown

Have you been using hgh @ 20-30 iu's a day for a long time and have you always used the same brand?

I take 20-30ius a week...

**600@50** · 05-11-2013, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by human project

I've already been loosing some strength "no loss in muscle or weight yet" but my energy and overall well being is in the garbage at 300mg test a week.... I could drop down to 200 but if I'm feeling like shit now how would taking even less test make me feel any better??? I don't want to loose too much during this cruise so what would you recommend I do or take for the next 4-6 wks??

Drop the test to no more than 200/week. Get bw done. High RBC and hematocrit make me feel very crappy. Don't worry about losing too much bro. Your body needs a break and will respond better if you give it a couple of months to heal and recuperate.

**sniper320** · 05-11-2013, 04:49 PM

1mg a day of arimidex would crash my estrogen. that seems alot to me. Is this a normal dose for you ?

**baseline_9** · 05-11-2013, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

are u following a hit training program?

bump

**Perseverance1** · 05-11-2013, 05:42 PM

TRT dose is generally around 125mg/wk test e/c...300 probably has your test at 1800++ (but who really knows without bloodwork).

I definitely agree with getting your RBC checked. In the meantime, I'd personally drop my test dose to at the highest 175....but likely a little less.

Up to you mate.

**human project** · 05-11-2013, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by sniper320

1mg a day of arimidex would crash my estrogen. that seems alot to me. Is this a normal dose for you ?

Ya and i still seem to have some estrogen problems.... My nipples are still a little puffy.... I'm using the small white square bd arimidex and I think they may only be .5.... They say there 1mg but they seem to be weaker then that.... I use to take one every other day but I was advised to take it daly bc it has a 24hr half life..... I could break them in half but there so small I don't know how that would work

**human project** · 05-11-2013, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by baseline_9

bump

I generally do follow a hit like program but as of lately I can't even workout except for cardio and when I do lift I have no energy and absolutely no endurance......

**human project** · 05-11-2013, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by Perseverance1

TRT dose is generally around 125mg/wk test e/c...300 probably has your test at 1800++ (but who really knows without bloodwork).

I definitely agree with getting your RBC checked. In the meantime, I'd personally drop my test dose to at the highest 175....but likely a little less.

Up to you mate.

If i drop that low I'm afraid ill loose 20lbs of size...... I'm already loosing so much strength it seems ill loose all energy and all willing to do anything if i take anymore hormones out of my protocol.... I'm not disregarding your idea and I will strongly consider but I literally can't take feeling ANY worse or having any less energy.... I'm having problems getting to work and performing normal daily tasks

**Lunk1** · 05-11-2013, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by human project

If i drop that low I'm afraid ill loose 20lbs of size...... I'm already loosing so much strength it seems ill loose all energy and all willing to do anything if i take anymore hormones out of my protocol.... I'm not disregarding your idea and I will strongly consider but I literally can't take feeling ANY worse or having any less energy.... I'm having problems getting to work and performing normal daily tasks

It's time to take a break buddy...like it or not your body will thank you!

**tdoe11** · 05-11-2013, 10:55 PM

How long have you been on dude? Just wondering because I follow the slingshot method. I also feel terrible at times. Recently I dropped my test to 350 a week and scrapped the var I was doing. I picked up a preworkout supp and I feel much better at the gym. I figured all the anabolics in the world won't do me any good if I can't get a good work out. I am feeling much better, also I am cutting. So I kinda replaced the var with a fat burner stim. Seems much better. Getting blood done every couple months in a MUST dude like lunk previously stated. E2, RBc. Who knows? Privatemdlabs.com is where I go.

**Euroholic** · 05-11-2013, 11:27 PM

Please come off bra. Your body needs the rest, you wont loose that much if your training and diet is good. Don't turn into a addict.

**Back In Black** · 05-12-2013, 01:42 AM

You really need to get some bloodwork mate. Even if your AI is 0.5mg then taking one everyday may crash your E2. I am sensitive to E2 and need only 0.25mg every day. Arimidex has a half life of nearly 48 hors not 24 so you are taking twice as much as you think. So, if they actually are 1mg tabs your problem is evident.