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    **How do you feel while cycling?!?

    Currently im doing a test prop and winstrol cycle...i ask this because i believe im feeling every one of my veins pump blood, specially when im in bed. I workout ok and all ok but its almost always when im in bed i feel blood pumping all over my body amd heart beating. Does it have to do with high BP? Is this normal? What would you do? What can it be?

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    winny can be kinda tough on BP.

    Step 1: get your BP checked. Walk in clinics/family doctors usually do it for free.

    If your BP is high, get your diet in check (low sodium), drink lots of water, do a little bit of cardio. If I was in your position, i'd be tempted to drop the winny and make sure estro is in check with 1-2mg letro EOD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoey101Fan View Post
    winny can be kinda tough on BP.

    Step 1: get your BP checked. Walk in clinics/family doctors usually do it for free.

    If your BP is high, get your diet in check (low sodium), drink lots of water, do a little bit of cardio. If I was in your position, i'd be tempted to drop the winny and make sure estro is in check with 1-2mg letro EOD
    Thanks man!! Yea i got it checked yest and it was normal... Eating clean and righht... I dont even have a week on my cycle. Ive only got 1 winny shot so far but feeling like this you know kinda freaks out...afraid of a heart attack and stuff. I might just lower the doses...im also taking proviron 25mg ED

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    I would also be freaked out if I was in your position. Honestly, I don't like being reminded that I have a heart that could stop at any minute haha.

    If you want to go a step further, you could get bloodwork done. And you should get BP checked at least 6 times before you make a decision of if it is high or not. One data point doesn't tell you much. Also, don't cycle without letro. Estro has so many bad effects (affects?) on your cardio system that it's best to just nuke it.

    Good luck man. From what i've read, winny is not a nice compound when it comes to sides.

    Edit: just read that you've only been on 1 week. The first few weeks people definitely feel a little bit kooky. I think it shocks your system. Should even out by week 4.

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    Unless I'm running tren , I feel like a GOD.
    Tren makes me feel terrible. Heart pounding, insomnia, paranoia, lethargy.
    700+mg/wk test makes me feel amaaaaazing.

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    Are you taking anything else?

    You normally only become aware of your pulse when your heart is beating hard, which could cause an increase in BP, OR be a compensatory response to vasodilators, like Cialis or Viagra.

    Everyone who self-medicates and cares about their health should own a decent BP machine at home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoey101Fan View Post
    ... make sure estro is in check with 1-2mg letro EOD
    What a terrible advice...
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    Quote Originally Posted by turkish juicer View Post

    what a terrible advice...
    x2!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish Juicer View Post
    What a terrible advice...
    based on bloods, this is what I find works best. Letro isn't as agressive as everybody says.

    you really gotta megadose adex and asin to get estro within an acceptable range. Not even worth messing with IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoey101Fan View Post
    Letro isn't as agressive as everybody says.

    you really gotta megadose adex and asin to get estro within an acceptable range. Not even worth messing with IMO
    Letrozole (Femara) is by far the most aggressive AI that has ever been produced, especially when employed at your suggested range of dosage.

    I have no idea where you are coming from when you say ''you really need to megadose Arimidex and Aromasin in order to get estrogen levels within the acceptable range'' but this is most certainly not true if not also misleading. Even people with high estrogen sensitivity do fine with 0.50mg of Arimidex EOD and 25mg of Aromasin EOD which are most certainly NOT mega-doses.

    It is surely an oxymoron for anyone to say that 1-2mg of Letrozole EOD is an acceptable dosage and intake protocol in terms of estrogen management and by no means agressive; whereas, Arimidex and Aromasin are worthless when employed at the suggested dose range and that a lot more is needed.

    You either have extremely high estrogen sensitivity, and by ''extremely high'' I mean you are a ''medical case'' in this regard, or your Letrozole is severely under-dosed. A third option would be ''you are full of it'' but let's leave it out as for now since I have no intention to offend you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish Juicer

    Letrozole (Femara) is by far the most aggressive AI that has ever been produced, especially when employed at your suggested range of dosage.

    I have no idea where you are coming from when you say ''you really need to megadose Arimidex and Aromasin in order to get estrogen levels within the acceptable range'' but this is most certainly not true if not also misleading. Even people with high estrogen sensitivity do fine with 0.50mg of Arimidex EOD and 0.25mg of Aromasin EOD which are most certainly NOT mega-doses.

    It is surely an oxymoron for anyone to say that 1-2mg of Letrozole EOD is an acceptable dosage and intake protocol in terms of estrogen management and by no means agressive; whereas, Arimidex and Aromasin are worthless when employed at the suggested dose range and that a lot more is needed.

    You either have extremely high estrogen sensitivity, and by ''extremely high'' I mean you are a ''medical case'' in this regard, or your Letrozole is severely under-dosed. A third option would be ''you are full of it'' but let's leave it out as for now since I have no intention to offend you.
    25mg of Aromasin, right TJ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaspaco View Post
    25mg of Aromasin, right TJ?
    Yes!

    I edited my post, thanks for the heads up!

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    on test at 500 I feel pretty good, solid, strong good pumps, a little more confidence. nothing crazy though. not exactly understand feeling like a god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish Juicer View Post
    Letrozole (Femara) is by far the most aggressive AI that has ever been produced, especially when employed at your suggested range of dosage.

    I have no idea where you are coming from when you say ''you really need to megadose Arimidex and Aromasin in order to get estrogen levels within the acceptable range'' but this is most certainly not true if not also misleading. Even people with high estrogen sensitivity do fine with 0.50mg of Arimidex EOD and 25mg of Aromasin EOD which are most certainly NOT mega-doses.

    It is surely an oxymoron for anyone to say that 1-2mg of Letrozole EOD is an acceptable dosage and intake protocol in terms of estrogen management and by no means agressive; whereas, Arimidex and Aromasin are worthless when employed at the suggested dose range and that a lot more is needed.

    You either have extremely high estrogen sensitivity, and by ''extremely high'' I mean you are a ''medical case'' in this regard, or your Letrozole is severely under-dosed. A third option would be ''you are full of it'' but let's leave it out as for now since I have no intention to offend you.
    ehhh i'll put up some bloods next week. Been doing 700 test E and 1.25mg letro EOD.

    I've got bloods off a very similar cycle and the estro was at the low end of the acceptable range. Whenever I was doing adex, I could never get estro down low enough.

    I don't care what research you bring up, bloods from someone who's actually doing the cycle mean alot more than the shit you typed out. I also don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to have 0 estro unless you start getting joint issues.

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    i take .25 of arimidex EOD sooo should i up it .50?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dumpslugzz View Post
    i take .25 of arimidex EOD sooo should i up it .50?
    bloodwork, my friend.

    That's really the only way you can know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoey101Fan View Post
    I don't care what research you bring up, bloods from someone who's actually doing the cycle mean alot more than the shit you typed out. I also don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to have 0 estro unless you start getting joint issues.
    I was running BW before you started to consider using AAS, so take a deep breath and try to relax before you spit out big words like you did above.

    Only because I often share scientific research with the rest of the forum members here doesn't make me a steroid geek who typically learns from articles as opposed to real life experience. Don't let your limited perception fool you about the personality of others, after all you are discussing this matter with a person who is the only one in his BB community that decided to run BW before his first cycle. I typically run BW before, during and after every and each cycle, and this has been a part of my routine for many years by now.

    Everyone is different. If I were to run 1.25mg of Letorozole EOD, which I did in the recent past, my E2 drops way too much and unlike what you'd like to think, 0 estrogen can lead to multiple issues regarding your overall health before you start experiencing joint issues.

    Lastly, all of my ancillaries have been pharmaceutical grade, period. This is one of the outcomes of living where I live, you can walk into any open pharmacy and buy any AI without a prescription, nor do you need to spend a lot of money for such comfort & luxury either. Thus, when I run BW, it is granted that there are no ''grey areas'' regarding the issue of whether my AI is bunk or under-dosed, which has always given me the benefit of being able to ''know'' how my E levels responds to each and every AI with the given dosage & intake frequency.

    If 1.25mg of Letrozole EOD isn't leading to estrogen suicide in your case, then your estrogen sensitivity must be really high, which is something I've already stated in my prior response. Thus, you can keep your BW to yourself and save us the trouble, since there is nothing for you to prove here. Neither do I.

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