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    Am i ready to start

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    From a quick glance, I'd say you have a decent build. Maybe bloated, maybe a tad high bf%?
    Height, training experience, age, lifting stats?

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    You look g2g mate what is your experience with aas

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    Look, honestly you have a good beginners build but you can do so much more before you start aas IMO. Most ppl who use aas do so and 1 year later everything is gone. You need to spend a good 2 years in the gym eating like a monster. Supplement with creatine, aminos and add some quality protein shakes and you can easily add 10-20 lbs in a years time. Don't rush it.

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    I have never done a cycle but was going to go with test e with anastrol and hcg for 12 weeks
    Im 5'11
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    I have been lifting for a while but its been in a deficit(cals)
    I would like to do the cycle to build as much muscle as possible and keep fat low

    Thanks

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    how long is 'a while' ?...a few years, or a few months? If it's a few months, put the syringe down and let your joints/tendons develop first. If you don't, you WILL have a serious injury.

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    Do you have a training partner??

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    If you jump into a cycle, make sure to up your cals significantly. It's a waste of time trying to recomp; it is much more efficient to bulk--->cut

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    Quote Originally Posted by Portcityjbird View Post
    I have never done a cycle but was going to go with test e with anastrol and hcg for 12 weeks
    Im 5'11
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    I have been lifting for a while but its been in a deficit(cals)
    I would like to do the cycle to build as much muscle as possible and keep fat low

    Thanks
    to be frank, I'd say you have maybe 6 months in the gym? I don't really see any definition, vascularity or size, indicators that say you've been at this awhile.

    as such, you need to be patient, and continue to focus your efforts in reducing bodyfat%, and improving your knowledge of nutrition and exercise routines.

    Steroids are the last thing to consider, after everything else is in place.

    Good luck!
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    Im 30 yrs old.i was 225 lbs at one time i have been lifting for a couple years but as i said before i have been in a calorie deficit to lose weight......and i drank liquor evry week 3 to 4 times a week.i have cut down from 225 to 181 sorry that im not vin diesel homeboy but 6 months is stupid crazy.....but yea i have a training partner

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    TR is right here.

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    Best flat bench 315lbsx1
    Best squat 315x1.....i have tiny legs
    Deadlift never tried to max

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    Quote Originally Posted by Portcityjbird
    Best flat bench 315lbsx1
    Best squat 315x1.....i have tiny legs
    Deadlift never tried to max
    Full range of motion ?

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    Yes full range of motion

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    But that was when i was heavier
    Now its like 275 on fb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Portcityjbird View Post
    Im 30 yrs old.i was 225 lbs at one time i have been lifting for a couple years but as i said before i have been in a calorie deficit to lose weight......and i drank liquor evry week 3 to 4 times a week.i have cut down from 225 to 181 sorry that im not vin diesel homeboy but 6 months is stupid crazy.....but yea i have a training partner
    no, six months is NOT stupid crazy. this is the period of time where you get the most noticeable improvements in the least amount of time. After that, incrementally, gains come slower and slower.

    You need to develop a good foundation and work on your diet. it would be a mistake to get impatient and start steroids before you have a good foundation in place. There is more going on than your musculature. You also have connective tissue that responds to weight training very slowly. Hitting steroids too soon is asking for trouble, and posing a serious risk of injury to your tendons and ligaments. Some will tell you that you shouldn't touch steroids until you are below 13% body fat, been hitting it intensely at the gym for 4 or 5 years, and have hit the proverbial brick wall in terms of gains.....

    .....I still see a lot of room for improvement on your frame, something you can do without AAS.

    Be patient. It will come.

    By the way...

    strength comes from the gym

    and you build size in the kitchen

    maybe you should post your diet in the nutrition section, complete with your tdee, macros per meal and total macros per day....
    ...I'm thinking dialing this in now can accelerate your progress noticeably.

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    Haven't tried to go to heavy on sqauts since im only eating 1900 cals a day

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    Well first thing you should do then is get your diet straight. You said calorie deficit, change that up. Add more calories( clean ) and work your butt off in the gym. It will come don't rush it. I have a good workout that I can promise if you and your partner can put in 2 hrs, 6 days week and eat lime crazy you will add 10-20 lbs lbm in 2 months. It's grueling, but I used it when I was younger and it works. Just let me know if you want it and ill pm it to you.

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    Ok well since i don't have the size to start i guess thats what your saying should i bulk or cut im confused .i have been lifting heavy for some tears now i mean a few and i have just now got my nutrition right

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    Can i do 1 hour in the am and 1 in the pm

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    Start to add some good cards in your diet (no carbs = no burn fat) cause your body need carbs to help burn fat !!! i can't imaging how you eating 1900 cals. for me its too low.
    Just my opinion.

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    I eat about 170g carbs aday

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    Quote Originally Posted by Portcityjbird View Post
    Ok well since i don't have the size to start i guess thats what your saying should i bulk or cut im confused .i have been lifting heavy for some tears now i mean a few and i have just now got my nutrition right
    I'm just looking at your foundation mate. I usually expect to see a little more work before a bloke starts in with the AAS. Nothing personal

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    Can i do 1 hour in the am and 1 in the pm
    I'm not sure what you mean. 2x in the gym, each for an hour? I think your time would be better spent just getting in a single complete workout, and if you do happen to go to the gym a second time that day, focus on cardio.

    The body can only grow at rest.

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    You’ve probably heard that carbohydrates are perhaps the WORST thing you can eat when trying to lose fat or transform your body, and for most people, that’s 100% true.

    You see, due to years of consuming a diet full of processed carbs, most people have grown VERY insensitive to one of the most important hormones in our body—a hormone that can either be a huge asset to your body transformation goals, or a total fat loss and health-derailing nightmare.

    Its name is insulin , and it’s function is to help your body keep blood sugar at bay, clear it quickly from your bloodstream after a carbohydrate meal, and (hopefully) shuttle those carbs to be stored in muscle tissue for energy instead of fat.

    I say “hopefully” because that’s actually the exact opposite of what occurs when most people eat carbs.

    Going back to insulin sensitivity and carbohydrate tolerance, due to a diet full of processed, insulin- and blood-sugar-spiking carbohydrates, most folks are suffering from some level of insulin resistance, a condition in which insulin is no longer able to efficiently remove blood sugar from the blood stream.

    The result? Dramatically reduced fat burning and increased fat storage.

    Even worse, insulin resistance can (and often does) lead to type II diabetes and an array of other health problems over time, and it all leads back to insulin sensitivity.

    Ideally, when you consume carbohydrates, here is what you want to happen:

    1. Minimum insulin release. This occurs when your body is highly sensitive to insulin. When it is, only a small amount of insulin is necessary to effectively and efficiently clear sugar from your blood to its storage sites. This is great news because your body has an incredibly difficult time burning fat in the presence of insulin. The less insulin you have floating around, the better.

    2. Quick and efficient blood sugar clearance. Again, this will occur when your body is highly sensitive to insulin.

    3. Maximum glycogen uptake. Glycogen is the term used for stored carbohydrate in muscle. When muscle tissue is highly sensitive to insulin, the vast majority of blood sugar will be stored in muscle (to be used as energy), not fat.

    4. Minimum fat storage. When you increase insulin sensitivity, especially in skeletal muscle, your body will choose to store your carbohydrate intake as energy in muscle tissue instead of body fat.

    Again, your body’s ability to tolerate carbohydrates all comes down to your insulin sensitivity and your body’s ability to quickly and efficiently shuttle carbohydrates to lean tissue and not fat.

    So how can you increase insulin sensitivity?

    Well, you could go completely low-carb for an extended period of time in an attempt to repair your insulin receptors and increase insulin sensitivity. But for most, that’s a rather dreadful option and even then you’d need to very slowly reintroduce carbohydrates back in to your diet to avoid massive fat gain.

    No thanks.

    Fortunately, you DON’T need to go low-carb or no-carb…at all.

    In fact, many times you can enjoy even MORE carbohydrates than you currently are while losing even more fat when you utilize this one simple trick:

    SUPERCHARGE your insulin sensitivity before each carbohydrate-containing meal in just a few seconds with the below 5 ingredients — each of which have been clinically proven to dramatically improve both insulin sensitivity and your body’s ability to process carbs.

    Here they are:

    #1. Cinnamomum Burmannii, a potent extract harvested from Indonesian cinnamon bark that has been shown to effectively assist in managing blood sugar after a carbohydrate-rich meal while increasing glucose metabolism by up to 10 fold!

    #2. Berberine. This rare plant alkaloid has been used for centuries in Ayurvedic medicine in India. Berberine works slightly different by improving the signaling between insulin and its associated receptors while also increasing carb uptake by lean muscle for energy, not fat.

    #3. Pterocarpus Marsupium. Believe it or not, this powerful herb is actually used in the treatment of diabetes by Ayurvedic physicians in India. In fact, Pterocarpus Marsupium is so effective that it was shown in a recent research study to reduce blood sugar levels after a meal by a whopping 21%.

    #4. 4-hydroxyisoleucine, a natural phytochemical extracted from the Fenugreek herb, has been scientifically shown to increase carbohydrate storage in muscle cells while decreasing carbohydrate fat storage through the sensitizing of insulin receptors in muscle tissue.

    4-hydroxyisoleucine has also been shown to interfere with the process by which the body converts muscle protein to sugar for energy. This encourages fat loss (instead of muscle break down) and aids in the retention of calorie-burning lean muscle as you lose fat.

    #5 – R-Alpha Lipoic Acid (R-ALA). Alpha Lipoic Acid is a naturally occuring fatty acid made up of two isomers, S-ALA and R-ALA, of which the R isomer has been shown to be significantly more effective and bioavailable. In fact, R-ALA is clinically proven to increase insulin sensitivity by an impressive 25% in just 4 weeks and is so powerful at managing blood sugar that it’s even used by German doctors for the treatment of diabetic neuropathies.

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    Try this workout for two months, supplement with 10 gms creatine Ed, and up your calories to a bulking diet. I'll bet you if you do this and honestly put in the time and dedication it takes to do this you will add at the least 10 lbs and be cut nicely at the end of 2 months. Without aas!

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    You got a little ways to go yet bud. Put AAS on the back burner. Put in two more solid years lifting and tuning in your diet like these guys are saying. You will thank us later.

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    Ok should i bulk or cut is what im asking now considering i have been cutting for a long time and just now got the diet right.im still probably 18% bf.....but thanks for the info and replys i feel i made pretty good progress from before though going from 150lbs of no muscle to 225 of fat to 181 looking half way decent

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    i think you look good to go brother
    i dont know whats with the negativity
    i think you have decent size and you dont have high BF

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    178 here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granovich View Post
    i think you look good to go brother
    i dont know whats with the negativity
    i think you have decent size and you dont have high BF
    Thanks man

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    im running testosterone and HGH now. i started 183 lbs @ 5'10
    bulking with good solid diet that i made sure i do all meals before cycle started
    im 4 weeks in cycle. and runnning 6 iu HGH
    i missed few days at the gym due to work . but i added 14 lbs so far. and im running pharma grade aromaisn 25mg/ED which is ALOT but i want to keep bloating down
    workout hard, eat good and you will gain alot. i gained really good amount
    Yes some water and tried to add minimum fat but there is definitely 70% muscle
    got 4 more weeks...
    as long as you are already strong and have good foundation and eat good you will keep gains
    run solid PCT,, nolvadex and clomid

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    Thanks for your info

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