Shit has got real.

**boz** · 05-25-2013, 02:48 AM

As most of u may all know i am a cruiser/blaster. I have been cruising now for 1 year and 6 months.

Currently running 500mg test e (pharma grade) and things are not happening for me with my junk. I got a blood test couple months ago after finishing my test/tren cycle and my e2 was through the roof and during that cycle i was having ED problems. Obviously i assumed the e2 was the culprit, invested in some adex and started doing .50 EOD. Started feeling a bit better my junk was responding a bit but not how i would of liked it to.

Now correct me if im wrong, since i have been producing artificial test for this long now, is my nuts saying to me well since we dont have to produce natural test for u anymore, why should there be a hard on given? Im thinking its time to invest in some HCG now? Everything seems fine mentally, its just not happening for me where i like it to.

I got some cialias on hand to, tried some over the work weekend, and tbh i was quite disappointed to see the results everyone raves about it with them, yeh i was hard as a rock when the time came, but not how some ppl describe there time on them. Obviously most will be thinking we dont know whats going on right now unless a blood test is given at the very least, and alot will be thinking its time to come off, but i believe i have done the damage now and there is no turning back.

I just wanna hear from the trt or possible cruisers the diagnoses at this stage.

**marcus300** · 05-25-2013, 03:12 AM

Your right we don't know whats happening unless we see bloods and what the ranges are but one is for sure your out of balance. You should of been using hcg straight from the start if you want your testicles to function properly and maintain size. Staying on cycle at such a young age will have a drastic effect on your natural hormones and not responding and having low test is one of the worse thing that can happen, ive been there and it was a daily living hell. You need to come off cycle completely and let the body get back to normal, you need to do an aggressive pct to se if you can get your natural test back in line but if not you need to see a doctor to get trt.

You have probably been running to high of a cruise, many do and it does have an effect on yoru gains and results from future cycles. If you have been doing this for 1.5yrs you should have put on some serious muscle tissue?? if not you have been doing it wrong plain and simple but the best thing to do is not to use even more compounds to solve the problem but to come off everything and I mean everything and do pct then get blood work done, that's if you want to make some gains in the future.

**boz** · 05-25-2013, 03:21 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

Your right we don't know whats happening unless we see bloods and what the ranges are but one is for sure your out of balance. You should of been using hcg straight from the start if you want your testicles to function properly and maintain size. Staying on cycle at such a young age will have a drastic effect on your natural hormones and not responding and having low test is one of the worse thing that can happen, ive been there and it was a daily living hell. You need to come off cycle completely and let the body get back to normal, you need to do an aggressive pct to se if you can get your natural test back in line but if not you need to see a doctor to get trt.

You have probably been running to high of a cruise, many do and it does have an effect on yoru gains and results from future cycles. If you have been doing this for 1.5yrs you should have put on some serious muscle tissue?? if not you have been doing it wrong plain and simple but the best thing to do is not to use even more compounds to solve the problem but to come off everything and I mean everything and do pct then get blood work done, that's if you want to make some gains in the future.

Ill get a blood test and def go from there marcus. Ill be blunt coming off scares the fvuk outta me, especially when i got a mate who was on a similar boat to what i am on and his experience was gut wrenching to listen to. He told me there were days he wanted to get a rope and get it over and done with, but through family friends and support always around him he is starting to come good and he is working things out with his doctor. You right also the serious mass tissue should of been stacked on, i believe i made great gains from my point of view, but for people like yourself and others would beg to differ, there should of been alot more stacked on.

Also u say i need to come off and get back to normal, thats IF my body will go back to normal and its not to late.

**marcus300** · 05-25-2013, 03:34 AM

Originally Posted by boz

Ill get a blood test and def go from there marcus. Ill be blunt coming off scares the fvuk outta me, especially when i got a mate who was on a similar boat to what i am on and his experience was gut wrenching to listen to. He told me there were days he wanted to get a rope and get it over and done with, but through family friends and support always around him he is starting to come good and he is working things out with his doctor. You right also the serious mass tissue should of been stacked on, i believe i made great gains from my point of view, but for people like yourself and others would beg to differ, there should of been alot more stacked on.

Also u say i need to come off and get back to normal, thats IF my body will go back to normal and its not to late.

Ok, listen to yourself what you have done hasn't resulted in serious gains so what you have done didn't go accordingly to plan because being on cycle for such a long time should produce great gains if you blast and cruise properly. Your body is telling you something and you should listen and not to that obsessed little man in your head trust me ive been there. I wont sugar coat it because that's the last thing you want to hear but you need to come off otherwise gains will get smaller and your body will stop responding to steroids . The only true way to find out if you have damaged yourself is to come off completely do an aggressive pct and get bloods done after about 6 weeks after pct, if you have low test get on trt by your doctor. Why do you think I try my best to tell the young guys not to cycle before their HPTA is fully developed, if you carry on you will get worse and you will stop gaining so in the long run for future gains you have to address this now and not with further medication to solve yet another side what your body is producing because you have been on steroids to long...........LISTEN TO YOUR BODY

**boz** · 05-25-2013, 03:41 AM

Np thanks for taking the time to chime in.

**marcus300** · 05-25-2013, 04:48 AM

Originally Posted by boz

Np thanks for taking the time to chime in.

No probs

if you really think you cant regain your natural test which is a shame at your age, I would do a low dose 100-150mgs per week of test for 8 weeks then get bloods done but in all honesty at your age I would try my best to regain full function and come off everything and do a pct, if I had to pick at your age i'd go the pct direction..

**Lunk1** · 05-25-2013, 06:23 AM

500mg EW is a cycle not a cruise. Boz..you could be in for a bumby ride but if you don't take measures now...it's only going to get worse. It's time to come off as Marcus explained and see what damage you may have done.

**600@50** · 05-25-2013, 07:02 AM

Boz, I've been on TRT for 20 years now most likely due to cycles I did years ago. The lack of knowledge at the time contributed to why I've had to be on TRT. There's so much information available now to prevent screwing your body up and you have a bunch of knowledgeable, willing guys to help with issues. Listen to them and you'll be fine. And just to let you know being on TRT can have it's ups and downs too.

**kelkel** · 05-25-2013, 07:12 AM

Boz I'd do exactly what Marcus said. I'd add one more thing as well and that would be BW right now too. Google Scally's Power PCT Protocol.

**boz** · 05-25-2013, 07:30 AM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

500mg EW is a cycle not a cruise. Boz..you could be in for a bumby ride but if you don't take measures now...it's only going to get worse. It's time to come off as Marcus explained and see what damage you may have done.

Of course it is a blast atm for me, i normally cruise at 200 - 250mg.

Originally Posted by kelkel

Boz I'd do exactly what Marcus said. I'd add one more thing as well and that would be BW right now too. Google Scally's Power PCT Protocol.

Ill look into it thanks.

**marcus300** · 05-25-2013, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by boz

Of course it is a blast atm for me, i normally cruise at 200 - 250mg.

Ill look into it thanks.

You been doing it all wrong, your cruise is to big 25-mgs is a small cycle then your cycling at 500mgs...who on earth told you to cruise and blast like that is an idiot.....you cruise on a very low dose to maintain gains 100-150 at the most while you prime the body then you hit a good solid dose to build new tissue, you have been wasting your time and cause yourself damage.....come off and do pct and then 5 -6 weeks after get bw done and see were you stand