Year out from BB show....Cycle help

[huggy008]

Hello all,

22 years old
6ft 2, 280 16-18%BF

Have done 5 cycles previous including just coming off tren ace and sust cycle around 3 months ago..

I love tren had awesome gains. I just dont know if I should bulk now being a year out from show? or should I cut? obviously my diet and cardio are going to be on point either way but whats your opinion and what to cycle?

[fit2bOld]

pics or it not true

[huggy008]

hhhhh

[AD]

I would suggest you cut. At 280lbs and assuming 20% bf, thats about 220lbs of LBM. That should be enough to win any show you choose.

[huggy008]

lol dont see why that was needed for advise but can we help out now??

[AD]

You can go for the 212 class of MrO

[marcus300]

stop posting threads what name sources, ive deleted 2 please read the rules before posting again.

[huggy008]

what would you suggest?
I have been told tren , prop,
with addition of winny or mast??

opinions?

[huggy008]

Sorry and wont happen again..

[marcus300]

There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.

I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.

I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.
Marcus

[fit2bOld]

I don't see 280 lbs

[austinite]

I don't see 280 lbs

I don't see 16 or 18 % BF either.

Huggy, have you considered having your diet evaluated? I would also look into the method you're using to calculate BF, doesn't seem to be working. Consider a bodpod assessment. It's worth it.

[huggy008]

Not here to impress you..Scale dont lie. You would say otherwise in person. Ask anyone in the community and gym I go to. @280 is low at that point I was 295 so I think you guys need to reevaluate your senses.

[anahny]

Not here to impress you..Scale dont lie. You would say otherwise in person. Ask anyone in the community and gym I go to. @280 is low at that point I was 295 so I think you guys need to reevaluate your senses.

I'm not gonna say your not 280lbs but if you are you would be a giant. Your bf is more like 20%. I suggest you start cutting as it will take you some to get down to competition level bf. It's best to give yourself enough time than not enough. And considering your bf is around 20%. Also, it's best you start working on your poses. 280lbs or not without proper unique posing you won't win a Damn thing. I'm currently 215lbs @ 11%bf 6 0'. My comp is in September and will be competing in the,200lbs class. Best of luck to you.

[krugerr]

Not here to impress you..Scale dont lie. You would say otherwise in person. Ask anyone in the community and gym I go to. @280 is low at that point I was 295 so I think you guys need to reevaluate your senses.

its hard sometimes with pictures and there is no real perspective.

If you're 280lbs, I congratulate you. That picture does show your bodyfat to be relavitvely high, I would suggest trying to cut slowly and naturally for a while. The nearer the show gets the better we can help you.

-Kruger

[Back In Black]

He is 6'2

But I agree, not 16-18% but I'd want a clearer picture with some wheels it for a better estimation but it looks 20% or so from that pic.

[austinite]

Not here to impress you..Scale dont lie. You would say otherwise in person. Ask anyone in the community and gym I go to. @280 is low at that point I was 295 so I think you guys need to reevaluate your senses.

Relax man. No one is attacking you. You posted a shitty picture, but it doesn't matter. If you say those are your stats that's then thats fine, we can go off of those stats.

First and foremost, you need to lose weight. So way way way before AAS, your first visit needs to be to the nutrition section.

[kelkel]

its hard sometimes with pictures and there is no real perspective.

If you're 280lbs, I congratulate you. That picture does show your bodyfat to be relavitvely high, I would suggest trying to cut slowly and naturally for a while. The nearer the show gets the better we can help you.

-Kruger

Agree with this. Op, remember they're not rolling out a scale on stage. It's muscle quality that wins contests. Work toward solid LBM. You've got plenty of time to hit your goals.

[AlinSR]

I think you will be shocked at how much you weigh once you are fairly lean. Do a mini contest diet now . This is your best route to success, I promise.

[huggy008]

I think you will be shocked at how much you weigh once you are fairly lean. Do a mini contest diet now . This is your best route to success, I promise.

Thank you.