Cycle for a college football player

[Fibraz]

Putting together a cycle for a tight end college football player. GH is out of the question. Looking to enhance size and conditioning. I know test prop is a must but not sure about what else should be included. Lets say there won't be drug testing for at least 5 months.

Stats are 6'4", 245lbs.

[Fibraz]

I'm pretty sure tren ace kills endurance and eq takes too long to work so those are also out of the question.

[Dougiefresh7707]

Putting together a cycle for a tight end college football player. GH is out of the question. Looking to enhance size and conditioning. I know test prop is a must but not sure about what else should be included. Lets say there won't be drug testing for at least 5 months.

Stats are 6'4", 245lbs.

I was in football for years never had to use juice for endurance if you want to get bigger just start test e only and the problem is maybe there's no testing now but it will happen quick when you start to blow up think about that befor you cycle.

[austinite]

Test prop is not a must..

We need your complete stats...

Age
body Fat percentage
Training experience
Cycle history in detail

Finally, once you have this info, please propose a full cycle for critique. Even if it's a mess, we need to know what you're considering and how you think it should be administered, this will help us get an idea of your level of research.

[Grizzly Live]

Putting together a cycle for a tight end college football player. GH is out of the question. Looking to enhance size and conditioning. I know test prop is a must but not sure about what else should be included. Lets say there won't be drug testing for at least 5 months.

Stats are 6'4", 245lbs.

I've been in your position and I'm suprised your coaches haven't given you test with no ester. Best way to avoid drug tests

[poloblue]

Putting together a cycle for a tight end college football player. GH is out of the question. Looking to enhance size and conditioning. I know test prop is a must but not sure about what else should be included. Lets say there won't be drug testing for at least 5 months.

Stats are 6'4", 245lbs.

Sus and Winn

[Fibraz]

Test prop is not a must..

We need your complete stats...

Age
body Fat percentage
Training experience
Cycle history in detail

Finally, once you have this info, please propose a full cycle for critique. Even if it's a mess, we need to know what you're considering and how you think it should be administered, this will help us get an idea of your level of research.

21. Bodyfat I'd say is 15 or 16%. T1 diabetic. Weightlifting for about 7 years. Cycle history, I've done a couple oral cycles years ago first was var and tbol, second was oral tren , third was dbol and drol. Probably shouldn't have but I did take estro and or proges blockers. First inject cycle I did was almost a year ago which was tren ace, test prop, and masteron .

I wanted to hear from people who might have experience with juicing and playing football, so I was open to suggestions.

I've been in your position and I'm suprised your coaches haven't given you test with no ester. Best way to avoid drug tests

I'm not gonna talk to the coaches about steroids .

[Fibraz]

Sus and Winn

Might go with sus but not sure about the winny. I'm gonna be pushing my limits and I don't want it ****ing with my joints.

Edit: Actually sounds like it might work. Was thinking 750 sus and 50 winny. Should anything else be added as icing on the cake or does this sound good?

[Shadow530i]

Why not do a fatty test prop cycle?

200mg EoD + HCG throughout the cycle + an AI along with some proper PCT...

would be a great 10 week cycle and you should be good to go before the season starts.

Look at the stickied threads about PCT.

Read, read, read.

[poloblue]

Might go with sus but not sure about the winny. I'm gonna be pushing my limits and I don't want it ****ing with my joints.

Edit: Actually sounds like it might work. Was thinking 750 sus and 50 winny. Should anything else be added as icing on the cake or does this sound good?

The joint pain are one of the sides... Don't mean you'll get it.. I don't and I'm pretty sure everybody doesn't get it.. Why you think it's highly recommended For athletes..
Trust me, talk about endurance, you'll see.. I'm triple setting free weights and super setting abs with and without weights.. You ain't getting tired!!!! This shit is made for speed and agility combine training...

[Fibraz]

Ok so sus and winny. What about adding npp?

[Times Roman]

so we are now giving steroid advice to 21 year olds?

[austinite]

21. Bodyfat I'd say is 15 or 16%. T1 diabetic. Weightlifting for about 7 years. Cycle history, I've done a couple oral cycles years ago first was var and tbol, second was oral tren , third was dbol and drol. Probably shouldn't have but I did take estro and or proges blockers. First inject cycle I did was almost a year ago which was tren ace, test prop, and masteron .

I wanted to hear from people who might have experience with juicing and playing football, so I was open to suggestions.



I'm not gonna talk to the coaches about steroids.

It's in your best interest to wait. Check the sticky threads please. You could do a lot of long term damage if you cycle this early.

[Fibraz]

It's in your best interest to wait. Check the sticky threads please. You could do a lot of long term damage if you cycle this early.

Diddnt come here for people to preach to me about that. Ive cycled before, I'm just looking for a cycle critique.

[austinite]

Diddnt come here for people to preach to me about that. Ive cycled before, I'm just looking for a cycle critique.

We didn't invite you to tell us what to preach. That was my cycle critique for you.

[poloblue]

so we are now giving steroid advice to 21 year olds?

Talk about jerks around here, better yet roid rage .. Learn the sport of football before you chime in here... Understand what it takes to get in the" NFL"... Especially if he's been playing since the age of 5... He's already in college.. This is all he knows if he's been playing since 5yrs old... He's gonna do what he has to do to get to that level.. If he's been play since he's was 5, it's in his bloodline to play and do no matter what it takes to get in... Save the bllshit about giving advice to a fcking 21yrs old here.. Ass wipe..

[austinite]

Talk about jerks around here, better yet roid rage.. Learn the sport of football before you chime in here... Understand what it takes to get in the" NFL"... Especially if he's been playing since the age of 5... He's already in college.. This is all he knows if he's been playing since 5yrs old... He's gonna do what he has to do to get to that level.. If he's been play since he's was 5, it's in his bloodline to play and do no matter what it takes to get in... Save the bllshit about giving advice to a fcking 21yrs old here.. Ass wipe..

Well, your time is limited. You'll be gone soon so you can spend as much time as you want at other boards. I'm sure you'll enjoy all the teenagers over there advising you. typical immature child.

[poloblue]

Well, your time is limited. You'll be gone soon so you can spend as much time as you want at other boards. I'm sure you'll enjoy all the teenagers over there advising you. typical immature child.

Get a life loser.. You been on here one year and have 15k post!!!! You need a life bad.. You gotta be ugly as fcuk like that avi you have because you juicing and can't get laid.. 15k post in less then a year!!!! What a loser!!!!
You actually think football players aren't juicing???? And most of them are under the age of 25 jerk... He's asking for help and you turn him away!!!! There football players asswipe.. What part of football players are you not getting!!!!!!

[Lunk1]

This should end well I assume

I played football through college...no juice. Was lack of steroids why I didn't continue? Nope! Lack of skill and athleticism was!

[austinite]

Get a life loser.. You been on here one year and have 15k post!!!! You need a life bad.. You gotta be ugly as fcuk like that avi you have because you juicing and can't get laid.. 15k post in less then a year!!!! What a loser!!!!
You actually think football players aren't juicing???? And most of them are under the age of 25 jerk... He's asking for help and you turn him away!!!! There football players asswipe.. What part of football players are you not getting!!!!!!

Well, my advice for you is to focus on school. You can't even do math. lol.

[poloblue]

Well, my advice for you is to focus on school. You can't even do math. lol.

So what were you doing when they were teaching you how to round off??? Don't tell me, picking your nose..

[Times Roman]

Talk about jerks around here, better yet roid rage.. Learn the sport of football before you chime in here... Understand what it takes to get in the" NFL"... Especially if he's been playing since the age of 5... He's already in college.. This is all he knows if he's been playing since 5yrs old... He's gonna do what he has to do to get to that level.. If he's been play since he's was 5, it's in his bloodline to play and do no matter what it takes to get in... Save the bllshit about giving advice to a fcking 21yrs old here.. Ass wipe..

Get a life loser.. You been on here one year and have 15k post!!!! You need a life bad.. You gotta be ugly as fcuk like that avi you have because you juicing and can't get laid.. 15k post in less then a year!!!! What a loser!!!!
You actually think football players aren't juicing???? And most of them are under the age of 25 jerk... He's asking for help and you turn him away!!!! There football players asswipe.. What part of football players are you not getting!!!!!!

Please read the rules...

4. We have a strict NO FLAME POLICY. If you post harassing other members, while offering no helpful or useful information, you will be banned. This includes PM's, we ask that all correspondence between members and/or staff be respectful. You don't always have to agree, but you do always have to show mutual respect.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...7-25-12-a.html

Mate,

You need to work on your people skills, since apparently you seem to lack any.

Now edit out all the flaming from your posts, and then take a breath....

....It's a long way to the cellar.

---Roman

[poloblue]

This should end well I assume

I played football through college...no juice. Was lack of steroids why I didn't continue? Nope! Lack of skill and athleticism was!

At least your honest about lack of skills and athleticism.. I know a few guys that were highly skilled and extremely athleticism, but lack size!!! Since they were lacking size, so their playing times were lacking aswell.. No playing time , no recognition... They gonn a do what it takes!!!

[poloblue]

Please read the rules...

4. We have a strict NO FLAME POLICY. If you post harassing other members, while offering no helpful or useful information, you will be banned. This includes PM's, we ask that all correspondence between members and/or staff be respectful. You don't always have to agree, but you do always have to show mutual respect.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...7-25-12-a.html

Mate,

You need to work on your people skills, since apparently you seem to lack any.

Now edit out all the flaming from your posts, and then take a breath....

....It's a long way to the cellar.

---Roman

You right,.... But understand that their football players... They must be a certain size by 18 years old depending on their position.. I would have gone a different route if they were some 21 year olds trying to be big for nothing...
Must most football players start at age 5.. Practice is 4 days a week for three months before the first game.. That goes on for the next 11 years.. It's the parents that have to deal with getting them to practice 4 days a week, rain or shine, cold or hot untill they get to high school.. They gonna juice no matter what.. So help them and don't turn your backs on them...

[Times Roman]

You right,.... But understand that their football players... They must be a certain size by 18 years old depending on their position.. I would have gone a different route if they were some 21 year olds trying to be big for nothing...
Must most football players start at age 5.. Practice is 4 days a week for three months before the first game.. That goes on for the next 11 years.. It's the parents that have to deal with getting them to practice 4 days a week, rain or shine, cold or hot untill they get to high school.. They gonna juice no matter what.. So help them and don't turn your backs on them...

You think none of us know anything about being a football player?

Being a football player is not an excuse to abuse your health or take steroids .

Being a football player does not elevate your status here above that of any other member. Our advise is and will be to wait til your mid twenties before considering taking steroids.

You are condoning a bad decision at the expense of potential future health problems.

Now show some respect and edit out your posts as you are still in violation of the rules.

Starting to get Pissed...

---Roman

[JWP806]

At least your honest about lack of skills and athleticism.. I know a few guys that were highly skilled and extremely athleticism, but lack size!!! Since they were lacking size, so their playing times were lacking aswell.. No playing time , no recognition... They gonn a do what it takes!!!

Who? Like Danny Amendola or Wes Welker? No size whatsoever but they're in the league and Welker is a freaking beast. I realize many positions require more size than others but I just wanted to throw that out there. (I'm a ttu alum)

You have a piss poor attitude and I'm fairly certain you'll be gone soon. I'm sure bb.com misses you.

[Fibraz]

We didn't invite you to tell us what to preach. That was my cycle critique for you.

No need to be a douchebag. I never told you what to preach. If you don't have any useful info to give then stop wasting your time. Like I've said before I've cycled numerous times. A lot of the players I know are on juice and gh, most of them aren't even 21. Football players know what it takes to make it in the sport and are willing to do what it takes if they really want to succeed.

[austinite]

No need to be a douchebag. I never told you what to preach. If you don't have any useful info to give then stop wasting your time. Like I've said before I've cycled numerous times. A lot of the players I know are on juice and gh, most of them aren't even 21. Football players know what it takes to make it in the sport and are willing to do what it takes if they really want to succeed.

Douchebag? You can follow your friend polo very soon to another forum. You just shortened your membership-span.

[Times Roman]

No need to be a douchebag. I never told you what to preach. If you don't have any useful info to give then stop wasting your time. Like I've said before I've cycled numerous times. A lot of the players I know are on juice and gh, most of them aren't even 21. Football players know what it takes to make it in the sport and are willing to do what it takes if they really want to succeed.

Good for you. But if you continue flaming staff,

...then you'll be outta here.

We give the advice we give for a reason.

I'm with Austinite on this one. Show some respect for the board, the members and the staff.

[REBORN52]

This should end well I assume

I played football through college...no juice. Was lack of steroids why I didn't continue? Nope! Lack of skill and athleticism was!

Touche'......people dont realize its a different breed at that evel...one game against Walter Jones taught me I wasn't that caliber.....

[Docd187123]

Well, my advice for you is to focus on school. You can't even do math. lol.

Austinite, why is it that whenever I see you recommending someone not cycle due to age this is the typical response? Remember what others have said, you're not who you are in your avi so your advice MUST BE WRONG

[austinite]

Austinite, why is it that whenever I see you recommending someone not cycle due to age this is the typical response? Remember what others have said, you're not who you are in your avi so your advice MUST BE WRONG

Because in most cases, they prove me right by showing their age with their responses. You know an intelligent adult would never act this way. Luckily we have plenty of super smart and intelligent members under 25. No loss here.

But yes, my AVI is so deceiving!

[Times Roman]

Because in most cases, they prove me right by showing their age with their responses. You know an intelligent adult would never act this way. Luckily we have plenty of super smart and intelligent members under 25. No loss here.

But yes, my AVI is so deceiving!

wait!?

that isn't you in your avi??

[Docd187123]

It's in your best interest to wait. Check the sticky threads please. You could do a lot of long term damage if you cycle this early.

Diddnt come here for people to preach to me about that. Ive cycled before, I'm just looking for a cycle critique.

We didn't invite you to tell us what to preach. That was my cycle critique for you.

No need to be a douchebag. I never told you what to preach. If you don't have any useful info to give then stop wasting your time. Like I've said before I've cycled numerous times. A lot of the players I know are on juice and gh, most of them aren't even 21. Football players know what it takes to make it in the sport and are willing to do what it takes if they really want to succeed.

Pretty sure they're not teaching you basic logic at your school huh? The info Austinite and Times Roman are giving you is useful you just happen to refuse it. Should they apologize for putting YOUR long term health first and foremost? Certainly not. A lot of players being on juice is no excuse to do it at your age. A lot of ppl are murderers and wife beaters, does that mean you'll be following suit too? Grow up and realize what you're getting here is the advice you need to hear. And what it takes to succeed is hard work, not some shortcut which you try to rationalize as "what it takes". Good luck to you sir.

[Lunk1]

This is dumb...it's the same BS argument as the fkn liars that try to convince ppl they plan to compete at a major level of BB. The percentage of ppl that go pro compared to those that play the sport is sooo astronomically low because it isn't juice that makes the difference. If that were the determining factor there would be 325 teams in the league.

[austinite]

wait!?

that isn't you in your avi??

No, TR. that's actually my mom and very motivational to me.

[Docd187123]

Because in most cases, they prove me right by showing their age with their responses. You know an intelligent adult would never act this way. Luckily we have plenty of super smart and intelligent members under 25. No loss here.

But yes, my AVI is so deceiving!

Maybe you're being haunted by the curse of DLB!! I guess intelligent is an important qualifier since I have seen adults act in this manner lol. I say keep up the good work!

[bdos]

Education is important big biceps are importanter.

[Fibraz]

Pretty sure they're not teaching you basic logic at your school huh? The info Austinite and Times Roman are giving you is useful you just happen to refuse it. Should they apologize for putting YOUR long term health first and foremost? Certainly not. A lot of players being on juice is no excuse to do it at your age. A lot of ppl are murderers and wife beaters, does that mean you'll be following suit too? Grow up and realize what you're getting here is the advice you need to hear. And what it takes to succeed is hard work, not some shortcut which you try to rationalize as "what it takes". Good luck to you sir.

I guess they diddnt teach basic logic in your school either. Did you see anywhere in my post that I was interested in becoming a murderer or wife beater?

Anyways, I'm out. I posted here to see if people would suggest different compounds than what I had in mind but realized this board is full of arrogant power hungry mods. I posted a similar question on a better, more known board and not a single reply included "oh your too young to juice wait till your in your mid twenties" nonsense. At least some members here were willing to give me the type of help I asked for so thanks for the info.

[austinite]

lol, you really shouldn't butt heads with docd, you couldn't fathom reaching his level.