Joining the world of Juice :)

**crazyplumber** · 06-22-2013, 08:44 AM

Hey guys,
Just saying hey from Australia

first post and just letting everyone know of my first cycle due in 2weeks! Wooooo!!

22years young, 96kg (211lbs), 6"2 been training for about 3years now soild! 5-6 times a week depending on work load! Diets not to shabby, eat pretty clean! Still room for improvement on the weekends :/ haha
Can list a diet that im strict to each day if anyones interested?

Main thing i wanted to show obviously being a steroid forum is my cycle i have prepared over the last month including pct!
Running as follows:

Sus 250 - 500mg - mon & thrus - weeks 1-14
Deca 250 - 250mg - mon & thrus - weeks 1-12
40mg dbols for weeks 1-5

Pct: nolvadex 40/40/20/20

Was going to run clomid but just keeping it on the sideline for now!

Feel free to give opinions and advice guys, i know some might say young factors and all and trust me i've read a lot and i never thought id join one of these but if your going to do it, id rather ask you blokes!

Cheeers

**Tron3219** · 06-22-2013, 08:53 AM

Welcome, best place to get responses on ur cycle is in the question and answer forum. But I will say this, if its ur first cycle we recommend a test only first cycle.

**Tron3219** · 06-22-2013, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by Tron3219

Welcome, best place to get responses on ur cycle is in the question and answer forum. But I will say this, if its ur first cycle we recommend a test only first cycle.

Ha scratch that...didn't realize what forum I was in...

**Tron3219** · 06-22-2013, 08:57 AM

One, ur probably still a little on the young side and may not have a fully developed endocrine system.

Two, too many compounds for first cycle

Three, no ai

Four, if I were to run just one serm itd b clomid not nolva, but if u have both, run both.

**Capebuffalo** · 06-22-2013, 09:08 AM

Test only for the first cycle. If you develop sides you know it's from the test because that is all you are taking.

AI ?
Hcg ?

Novla and clomid for pct.
yes I would like to see your diet.

**crazyplumber** · 06-22-2013, 09:11 AM

Ha, all good man! Yeah ive been highly considering just running test e by its self, but considering my training partner about 6ft now looks bigger then i do and he did test e and deca , i thought it wouldnt be a bad idea seeing as all went well! I was just a bit sketchy when he asked me to do it with him at the time! Yeah i have armidex aswell, i probably have more then what im supposed to have to be honest haha! Isnt i bad thing tho i guess!

Whats the risk in running to many compounds? I kno shutting down as body isnt prone to first cycle yet, but anything else?

**Capebuffalo** · 06-22-2013, 09:15 AM

If you have sides being inexperienced you won't know what to do to treat it.
Test only first cycle. That's the rule for a reason. Don't compare you to your training partner. Everyone is different. You will have great gains if your diet is right with only test. I guarantee it. Training and diet is 90 % of any cycle.

**Tron3219** · 06-22-2013, 09:15 AM

The problem with running say test and deca is u don't know how to control the side. Say u get gyno, how do u combat it? Is it estrogen related or progestin related? Test and 19nor can cause gyno by two different mechanisms...learn to walk before u run

**crazyplumber** · 06-22-2013, 09:17 AM

Only thing i dont have is hcg . Ive read a lot of people who do and dont? Say if i were to continue with my already prepared cycle and added the AI, would hcg still be needed?

**Tron3219** · 06-22-2013, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by crazyplumber

Only thing i dont have is hcg. Ive read a lot of people who do and dont? Say if i were to continue with my already prepared cycle and added the AI, would hcg still be needed?

It's recommended, helps keep ur nuts active and aids recovery

**Capebuffalo** · 06-22-2013, 09:19 AM

Hcg is proven to help recover. It's not absolutely needed but why wouldn't you?

**Tron3219** · 06-22-2013, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

Hcg is proven to help recover. It's not absolutely needed but why wouldn't you?

I inject it directly into my testicles (joking op don I it)

**Capebuffalo** · 06-22-2013, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by Tron3219

I inject it directly into my testicles (joking op don I it)

Leatherdaddy? You back?

**Tron3219** · 06-22-2013, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

Leatherdaddy? You back?

I'll cut you

**Tron3219** · 06-22-2013, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by Tron3219

I'll cut you

Sorry...I didn't mean it...increased test and tren does a number lol

**Bio-Active** · 06-22-2013, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by crazyplumber

Only thing i dont have is hcg. Ive read a lot of people who do and dont? Say if i were to continue with my already prepared cycle and added the AI, would hcg still be needed?

These guys are right on. I would never run a cycle with out hcg . Its not absolutely necessary but it will maintain testicular function during the administration of exogenous testosterone making pct much much better